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I don't think I lost any karma points. It says you thanked me for my answer and there's an x next to that but it doesn't mention any points. P.S.- I think they're both very talented but John was THE MAN.

How's your friend, stugatz?

I'll make sure I ask him the next time I see him.

McCartney carried The Beatles and not Lennon? That's probably one of the most ridiculous comments that I have ever heard. First of all, they wrote many songs together. Secondly, John wrote many great songs himself. Just because YOU don't like him for whatever reasons, doesn't mean he wasn't a great songwriter

I agree with you, Sinclair. Digger doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just talking off the top of his head.

You call that resting your case? Sorry pal. I don't think so. A great song can't be determined simply by whether or not it went to number one on the charts. Otherwise, many of the crappy songs on the charts now would outrank better songs both old and new. Plus, many great Beatle songs were never released as singles in the first place. P.S.- With regard to your comment about John's "giving it all to charity bit" you do realize that that is a line from a Paul McCartney song, don't you? Btw- I know for a fact that John gave to many charities and also performed benefit concerts (one of which I myself attended). He didn't just do bed-ins for peace. I don't know if you are aware of it or not (because I have no idea how old you are) but be-ins for peace, love, etc. were commonplace during the 60's. He did a bed-in because he had just gotten married and he rightfully thought that it would draw more attention to the issue.

MsSinclair, Only my non-pals call me pal so you can call me digger.
I didn't say #1 status was the ONLY indicator of song greatness.Did you expect me to rate EVERY song on their playlist? Why downplay the impact that their #1 hits had on their glorious accomplishment?

"With regard to your comment about John's "giving it all to charity bit" you do realize that that is a line from a Paul McCartney song, don't you?"

Paul McCartney wrote "the ballad of John and Yoko"?
I'm only surprised that you credit Paul for it.

"Btw- I know for a fact that John gave to many charities and also performed benefit concerts "

Great. Like I said, that's his business. I'm sure the other beatles did the same. They just did it without the fanfare.

"He did a bed-in because he had just gotten married and he rightfully thought that it would draw more attention to the issue."

Drawing attention by posing for the cameras in a hotel room. The symbolism being ? Draft dodging? That would require getting one's a$$ OUT OF bed and hightailing to Canada. Maybe that's why he honeymooned in Montreal.(P>S. I picked up Relic and will let you know once read, as requested;-) )

MsSinclair, Only my non-pals call me pal so you can call me digger.
I didn't say #1 status was the ONLY indicator of song greatness.Did you expect me to rate EVERY song on their playlist? Why downplay the impact that their #1 hits had on their glorious accomplishment?

"With regard to your comment about John's "giving it all to charity bit" you do realize that that is a line from a Paul McCartney song, don't you?"

Paul McCartney wrote "the ballad of John and Yoko"?
I'm only surprised that you credit Paul for it.

"Btw- I know for a fact that John gave to many charities and also performed benefit concerts "

Great. Like I said, that's his business. I'm sure the other beatles did the same. They just did it without the fanfare.

"He did a bed-in because he had just gotten married and he rightfully thought that it would draw more attention to the issue."

Drawing attention by posing for the cameras in a hotel room. The symbolism being ? Draft dodging? That would require getting one's a$$ OUT OF bed and hightailing to Canada. Maybe that's why he honeymooned in Montreal.(P>S. I picked up Relic and will let you know once read, as requested;-) )

wooops! i reported you for saying the wrong words. i'll go and correct it right now.

He probably would have balked at you calling him a liberal. Liberals tend to sit on the fence without taking a really strong position on anything. Of course there are exceptions to this but by and large I think that this holds true. And what do you mean by "His world was all white"? Listen to "Working Class Hero" and tell me he wasn't a realist.

Sitting on the fence,eh? I recall an interview with John where he commented on his "giving it all to charity" bit. I'm paraphrasing here but what he said was that "we often thing about giving it all to charity but days go by,then weeks,then years and before you know it, you just never get around to it,you know?"

Now, I don't know whether John ever gave generously to charity or not. Frankly.that's his business.What I do resent, is that unlike Paul, he did lots of talking and little walking.If lying in bed at the Queen Elizabeth Hotel in Montreal with the Beatle-buster ONO is what one considers "doing something" then we have different definitions of the word. Hypocrisy is one word that comes to mind.

ms. Sinclair, 'His world was all white' meaning that he looks at the perfect world of utopia as his ongoing goal. 'The perfect world' This is not to say he didn't realize what was going on around him. With all the wars, hunger and the poor, his way of thinking is, lay down your arms, feed the hungry and give to the poor. Where this sounds wonderful, its not realistic when you have people in this world that would love to see us lay down our arms so they can kill us, feed the hungry in the world when we have so many needy here in the USA and many of the poor prefer to remain this way--

Who was it that said: "The way to avoid war is to prepare for war."

I could go on with this but, I am finding my responsibilities at work are getting in my way.. :)

Vinny, Lennon SAID he was a dreamer, like you accused him of being. He said it in his lyrics to Imagine.

The world would include the U.S.A. He envisioned a world where EVERYONE laid down their arms, not just some people. Preparing for war never avoided any war that I can think of. P.S.- I don't who you've talked to but I don't know anyone that wants to be poor.

Ms Sinclair-- You haven't been to the places i have been, believe me, they're are millions of people that prefer to be poor. They're an old Christian saying.. "God must love the poor, he made so many of them.." Also, how can you be so sure that 'preparing for war avoided war?" I can think of one right now! Cuban Crisis.. If this isn't a clear identification of this then i don't know what is.. I could name a few others.. The one VERY big one is the 'cold war' due to facts that both super powers were prepared for a nuclear Holocaust we nevr did 'have a go at it.." We are having a standoff right now with N. Korea and Iran, you can bet your pants that is we were not prepared we would be in their hands.

this John Lennon was a dreamer, he dreamed of what we all dream about, yes his song 'Imagine' is a clear indication of his dream but once again, its not real! You have people out there that don't even know who John Lennon is, they want you dead. They do not respect your God, nor your pacifist ways, they simply want you dead for their own ignorant reasons.. You can not put flowers in their gun barrels, this is real! 'Be prepared'! Even the boy scouts know that one! I am not a gun person, I don't even own a gun but I want a strong military that will stand in front of me with their terrible guns to protect me and my family, because.. I know the bad guys are prepared.. we better be too. John Lennon had nearly disrupted this country into third world stupidity. I would never wish for war and killing on either side but unfortunately, our enemies do not think like John Lennon or you, or me for that matter.. they simply ant us dead. we are infidels. Pray as you desire but Jesus is not going to help you, nor would John Lennon in his white robe..

Lets try to be realistic.. he sang about it and he lived it, he wa a dreamer of utopia.. it does not exist and we are stuck with it.. perhaps if the apple was left on the tree, we would not all be punished for it today.