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    In the first 164 days of 2016 there was 136 mass shootings in the U.S..

    12 of them linked in some way to Islam.  What are the odds? 

    +5  Views: 737 Answers: 5 Posted: 8 years ago
    lindilou

    That's like 8.82 % of those particular shootings were linked and the rest 91.18 % are a culmination of 'domestic' mass shootings whatever the heck that means .... unreal jh.
    jhharlan

    I don't have a TU emogie so, thanks
    Bob/PKB

    The numbers cited in the question include gang violence and domestic violence, where at least 4 were killed or injured, including the shooter.
    jhharlan

    All caused by guns
    lindilou

    Lunatics with guns Jewels ... in my mind guns were created for two things ... hunting food and protecting yourself [and others].
    However, given that humans are such an array of psyches, we now have a third category of murder and I am not including war casualties here because that is a whole other ballgame.
    In reflecting on a few recent cases of 'terrorism' classed domestic I see that there are some very 'personal' issues for theshooters... for example in the San Bernadino shootings the guy was pee-oh'd about being overlooked for advancement within his company , terrorized his wife into helping him, the tie to the idea of Islam was that they together went and got themselves trained in tactics, went back to the USA and then exacted his revenge upon his peers at a dinner function.Another example involves the youngMuslim man who survived his suicide-bomb attempt and when asked why he did it he simply said "Because they killed my friend". Now we have this maniac most recently going and killing off defenceless people because he has a scrambled view of his own little world, quite simply, a madman... with some demented and contradictory ties/views to pretty much every terrorist group of an extremist Islamic nature.The trend appears to be one of mentally deranged people using Islam in some way as a means to commit sociopathic acts. Guns will always be available whether there is 'gun control' or not! Look at Canada!!! You can buy high powered automatic weapons here too.
    Bob/PKB

    Julie, would you feel better if knives and pipe bombs were used more often? Or passenger planes? Broken record blaming guns instead of the accessibility to them.
    There has been at least one "mass murder" leading back to Muslim terrorism every year of Obama's reign.
    jhharlan

    Bombs and knives instead of guns? Been there, done that. I don’t mind gun on the whole, own one myself that’s doozy, but there is no reason and psycho should get his hands on such an advanced weapon. No one should own a rifle meant for the military unless they anticipate running into a lot of mad deer…… (no, will never “carry” as I feel that is an accident waiting to happen. Far too many idiots who will think up justification)
    Bob/PKB

    Part of the problem has been Obama's restraints on FBI ability to investigate thoroughly. He's pulled forces out of places too soon, giving RMT an open door to come through. Fast and Furious stupidity had untraceable weapons in the hands of drug dealers....for starters.
    jhharlan

    I am NOT going to argue Obama with you. We each have different views and we're not going to change one ioda no matter what the other person has to say. Let's just leave this subject alone.
    Bob/PKB

    P. 261. "The Audicity of Hope"
    Make a convincing excuse for that and I'll vote for Hillary

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    Type into your browser how many mass shootings there have been in the UK verses the USA in 2016 and you will see there have been no UK mass shootings in the UK this year compared to 136 in the USA so far. Islam is one of the main religions in the UK, these shootings aren't about RELIGION, availability of automatic weapons ARE!

    ROMOS

    But the USA is soooooo much bigger! More mental cases, and of course, GUNS, hence the problem, Hmmmm!

    ....how do we calculate the mental health of our country and the affect on the value of life ?


    ....is it Islam, hate, leadership, race, gay, religion, drugs, wars, education, guns, economy, laws, lack of public awareness and action and or love of our brothers ?

    ROMOS

    We in the UK have roughly the same amount of mental health problems, but a damn sight less gun crimes, go figure.

    300,000,000 people in USA. 300,000,000 guns.


    Go figure.

    Bob/PKB

    What is your reliable source for this claim?
    nomdeplume

    Not claiming anything, just giving the information.
    See https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com
    Bob/PKB

    My sources claim very different statistics. I'll try to post it asap.

    I'm gonna get run down by a bus tomorrow, I don't plan on going out, so it isn't going to happen, all these things are based on FEAR, but then again, automatic weapons are only used by our forces here.

    Ducky

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    It would seem that automatic weapons should ONLY be made available to the military but....
    ROMOS

    Seemingly they are easy to get in the USA.
    WHO KNEW?
    Ducky

    Moderator
    Yep, and there is (apparently) no solution that might help.
    JDB

    Automatic weapons are illegal in the US... Why is everybody insisting these are automatic weapons???
    ROMOS

    Sig Sauer MCX, bought by Mateen in St Lucie Florida last week.

    Plus a Glock handgun.

    Time Magazine website has a good recap of mass killing going back to the 1980's. The definition of mass killing needs to be established. There are 3 on its list for 2016.


    The 2008 shooting at Ft. Hood, Texas, was the first attributed to Islamic extremism. A military psychiatrist was the murderer. 


    The 2nd amendment guarantees the right for us to bear arms. The process for buying guns isn't perfect, but taking away our right to possess them should not be under attack. 


     


     


     


     


     

    jhharlan

    In the article I read they defined mass killing as four or more victims.....
    Bob/PKB

    Mine, too. Not counting the perpetrators, though...


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