Atheists manage to find a way. I know some who have never done anything criminal. Believing in God does not seem to stop people from being bad however. So I guess it does not matter. With or without God, there will be the good and the bad.
terryfossil 1
Colleen, i agree with your point of view except for the Atheists,,there are a lot of people around who declare themselves Atheists,,but there are a lot less of them on their death beds...
Colleen
So the Christians claim. I've never seen actual verified evidence that people suddenly convert when they die.
terryfossil 1
Colleen, i did not get the claim from Christians,,it was said to me by soldiers down at the RSL if i can find some other evidence i will let you know..>>>>>>>><<<<<<<
Colleen
I hear it often enough from Christians. If even one soldier in a foxhole said it, Christians would have a way of expanding it to 1000's of soldiers. Anyway, I do not believe anyone needs a belief in God to be good.
Ducky
Many people exaggerate about many things. It isn't just those terrible Christians Colleen! By the way, what exactly is the name of your religion again?
Colleen
Where did I say terrible Christians? I've only ever seen the claim made by Christians in the articles I've read and in discussion forums I've been part of. I go by my experience when commenting on a subject.
Ducky
Your deep seated negative attitude towards Christians, comes through loud and clear. BTW, you forgot to answer the question I asked you.
Colleen
I do not need to answer your question because you demand to know. I also defend Christians. I've recently been in debates where I've been defending them. I'm signed up on a site where people, myself included are trying to find ways to help the Christians being slaughtered by ISIS. I share my religion out of good. I did share it with a member here a couple of years ago hoping it would help some for what he was going through at the time. I'm sure it's been shared to you by this member. I saw it posted here on akaQA by another remember not too long ago so I know you know what it is. I knew it was a dig at me but I ignored it. I did not attack Christianity in my comment to Terry, so you can leave off your attack on me. Thank you.
Ducky
No demand here. I simply asked you a question. No attack either. That's just how you continually feel during any discussion. Poor Colleen. :(((((
Colleen
Feel better then?
I'd love to believe this was just a "discussion" between you and I but you and I both know better. ;)
Have a good night Ducky.
Ducky
"you and I both know better". Really? You make it sound as though we actually communicate with each other. LOLOLOLOL!! Sleep tight.
Colleen
Just going on your comment of calling this a "discussion". Discussion is not the same as communicating? Anyway, no sense in mincing words. Glad I could make you laugh. :D
Ducky
Note: "ANY" discussion with "ANY"opposing views. Goodnight Colleen.
Colleen
So asking if one can be good without God was pointless. According to the page you gave me, one must be saved by Jesus and forgiven of their sins because being good in life is just not good enough. Well that's your answer Terry, not mine. I do not believe I need to be absolved of sin to be with God. I do not believe God sends anyone to h3ll. Even your page did not change my mind on that. People can be good with and without God. Your question did not add, can people get into heaven if they are good and that's what the webpage is actually about. Good try anyway.
terryfossil 1
@ Colleen, i was simply agreeing with you regarding not believing in God but still being a good person,,the article was meant to point out that even the bible points out there will be good people who do not believe in god,,I know you say you do not believe in my God,,so the end result is irrelevant to you,,,
Colleen
Well since there really is only one God, I guess I sort of have to believe in everyone's God. I just view God and what He asks of us (which is very little) differently than you do. I took the time to read through the article. It was actually a negative towards the idea that just being good is enough. It sort of goes against your point. Read the whole thing, you'll see what I mean.