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    HELMET LAWS? PRO AND CON

    My 54 year old cousin died on Thursday from head injuries suffered in a skateboard accident.  He was a very strong, agile, experienced surfer, skateboarder, and generally fit man. He wasn't wearing a helmet.


    About 5 years ago, a friend and his girlfriend were killed when their motorcycle was struck at a stop light by a drunk driver.  They were wearing "half" helmets and died of their head injuries (both were organ donors). 


    What kind of helmet laws, if any, do you think are appropriate?  Should people be cited for non-compliance? (as though the police were going to be on top of something like this...how many people speed past you EVERY day chatting away on their cell phones).    

    +12  Views: 2824 Answers: 12 Posted: 10 years ago

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    Here in South Australia it is compulsary to wear an approved helmet whilst cycling either on the road or recreational bike trails, an on the spot fine of $79 applies, just last week- end a cycling protest was made to not to wear helmets, the medical association were appalled at this, they believe helmets save cyclists and skate boarders from serious brain damage, a women in the rally said the current laws for helmets were sexist as it causes a bad hair day --- better a bad hair day than a vegetable, my self i would not ride any where with out my helmet, it is only common sense.

    ROMOS

    You have a skateboard??
    bulletman

    No, Roy, i hav'nt rode a skate board fo 40 odd years, leave it to the young ones. the skate board i had was home made , no commercially made skate boards then. :)
    ROMOS

    Not a Bogie then?
    bulletman

    Those were the days when i watched soap box derbys in the early sixties, unfortunately they are no longer as it was considered dangerous, due to the number of injuries, we are a society of breeding woosies.
    ROMOS

    So true, I built a few of them but never wore a helmet, emmmmm?????? duh?????
    I'm still around, a wee "sensible" Scottish guy.
    bulletman

    Just a bl--dy hard head, it must be all that Scotch, numbs the pain. LOL.
    ROMOS

    Probably,I've always been numb on Saturday nights.

    I live across from a very popular bike path and watching them, I see they are all, mostly, wearing helmets. And they don’t look like dorks! A lot of not wearing a helmet is vanity, never again will I go w/o one, I’m older now………..

    We have different laws in different provinces. In a couple of provinces there is no law at all, some have mandatory laws for bicycle riders of all ages, some only for minors, some have laws for skateboarders, some don't, etc. etc. There is definitely a push by the Brain Injury Association and various medical personnel to make helmet use mandatory, across the board, for all such sports. I wonder though, how practical it is to (once again) make laws to "protect people from themselves". Does it ever work?  After decades, people still don't use their seatbelts!

    Bob/PKB

    It does boil down to personal responsibility.
    Ducky

    Moderator
    For sure.

    Hear in the UK you have to wear a helmet on a motorcycle, but nothing else. Some not all people here ride bicycles , quad bikes, skate boards ,horses , without helmets. I think it should be law that you must wear a helmet, I always wear one when I'm out on my bike, it's the sensible thing to do.

    Bob/PKB

    That pretty much sums it up. It's the sensible thing to do.

    A full face motorcycle helmet definately saved my life on at least one occasion.I am all for compulsary helmets on motorcycles.Helmets for kids on bikes is certainly the responsibility of the parents.There is no way one of my girls will ride their bike without one.As for skateboarders....who is going to enforce a law on them.They seem to be a law unto themselves.

    Bob/PKB

    We have "skate parks" where the athletes can practice their tricks and enjoy themselves off the streets. They are all required to wear helmets and pads.
    I'm glad you teach the kids to ride safe.
    Tommyh

    We have skate parks too.My observance has been that the older "Kids" don't wear helmets.
    Motorcycle & bicycle helmets are required by law in all states here.
    Bob/PKB

    Maybe we need some "scared straight", so skateboarders, bicyclists, motorcyclists, etc. can see what can happen without a helmet. I have to concede that Vinny makes a good point; for my money, I'll be wearing a helmet next time I'm on anything less than a V-6.

    Hey Bob,where the motor department is concerned,Let them make a law to wear helmets,push bikes, skate boards and horses, let the responsibility be on the user,,when we were younger we did not have skateboards, however common sense says you should wear a helmet..I just don't like the authority telling me how i should protect myself,,wheather i need it or not,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 

    Bob/PKB

    That's what I was thinking; my cousin lived in Hawaii and I read about several bad accidents and deaths from no helmets. Education and personal choice...insurance companies can have a stipulation about coverage.

    People need to evaluate how important their health is before they participate in dangerous activities.

    Ducky

    Moderator
    We never think "it will happen to me".
    Bob/PKB

    Sometimes it amazes me I even go out the door.

    The risk taker is defiant of the effects of their errors on their own person. They choose to ignore the warnings they hear from within and from the voices of others in their own life. Their choice is to be closer to pain, grief and potential personal disaster for themselves and others. They may be afraid or cautious but they have a sense of accomplishment and success in escaping injury or death by their own careful planning or skill. Tempting certain death is an attack upon the the uncertainty of life and fear of death. One step over the line, measure out a lethal dose and take a little off the top. And then there are those who are truly fearless and they walk the line between mortality and dead in peace and comfort...sure in the knowledge that there is nothing to fear...like me. It is senseless for me to risk pain or injury. The thrill is gone and I am happy to be alive and well.  

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    lindilou

    Bobby girl I am so sad for your loss ... peace and love to you all honey. xoxox LL
    Bob/PKB

    Thanks, lindilou. My cousin had only her one son and I am sure she is beside herself with grief. Hope you and your angels are well.
    lindilou

    Miss Bobby we are all very well and Hector5559 many brain injuries happen in childhood and go undiagnosed for often years! Brain damage can be healed however and treatments are gaining rapid momentum! Safety first!
    Bob/PKB

    Good to hear! When my middle son was 8, he got "derailed" on the soccer field (didn't even see the other player approaching). I have it on video, and every time his body hits the ground and his head bounces, it turns my stomach. He rebounded in minutes, but you always wonder... he seems OK now, nearly 20 years later.

    I am an old timer on this-- I don't believe in helmets, I believe in common sense, drive for the other guy.  Helmets create a utopia od safety that doesn't exist, they cut you paraphal (sp) vision, they hinder your hearing and the extra weight on your neck can snap in ss than violent accident.


    You will ALWAYS hear when a person dies when not wearing a helmet,  but no word is said when a person dies because of wearing a helmet.  Helmets can kill!


    But! The best prevention of death by motorcycle is common sense, be aware, do not take chances, you will always lose, and just because the spedo says 180 MPH does not mean you go 180 MPH.


    I have driven motorcycles most of my life from little mopeds to large Harley Davidsons, I have owned many and i am still here to tell you about it, the reason I am still here is because I am scared to death of motorcycles!  I respect them and I live.


    Of course you will always find someone that was playing by the rules but died anyway, this unfortunately is true with cars too! So.. just be aware!  


    I would say if you must make helmets mandatory, then make them mandatory for riders with less than five years experience.  Seasoned drivers that have respect and know the tricks of safe motorcycling should be left alone to enjoy the wind and bugs in their hair.

    country bumpkin

    Moderator
    This makes a lot of sense to me Vinny. Have you ever heard of the Iron Butt Rally?
    Vinny

    no....
    country bumpkin

    Moderator
    Read here if you want to. http://www.ironbuttrally.com/IBR/default.cfm?CFID=5520723&CFTOKEN=66531310

    My ex husband was in first place until he crashed into the side of a Virginia mountain on the final leg of the race.
    Bob/PKB

    Interesting concepts, and you make your point well. The main problem with motorcyclists, as far as I can tell, is not how THEY operate their bikes, but how other motorists operate THEIRS.
    Vinny

    Bob/PKB: That is EXACTLY what I am saying. When I learned to drive a car at 16, one of the first rules I learned was 'watch out for the other guy'. I passed this to my son when I taught him to drive. He said to me, 'Dad, you worry too much, I am a good driver." I said, I never question your ability to drive, I question those around you and their ability to drive. Learning to drive is easy, learning to drive defensively is a bit more difficult and takes your total attention to what is around you. In motorcycling, it's even more important because what would be a 'fender bender' in a car accident can kill a motorcyclist. As for the helmets, I can see their worth during 'expected' mishaps which would occur in competition just as I see the need for leather body suits while racing. But seeing a person wearing full leathers and closed full helmets on the road signals to me that this person is living in a utopian world where they think they are invincible and in most cases this is the driver most likely to get killed. The wanna be road warrior.

    Several years ago on our way to Santa Cruz, we had to drive through the mountains, this 'road of twisties' where you can see your own tailights is a proving ground for idiots on motorcycles in full gear, we saw one go around us at hight rate of speed, laying it over like on a race track, three major curves ahead we saw him again, his motorcycle was into a tree, he was molded into the bike, and of course dead, but wearing his helmet.

    What this comes down to is immaturity and inexperienced riders on the road, regardless if wearing a helmet or not, idiocy on the road will kill you! And I guess that's the lure. When I ride, I must now wear a helmet too, against my will as I feel it limits my senses and makes an accident more probable because I can't see from side to side, and if I 'think' I saw something, causing me to 'jerk' my head left or right, the extra weight on my neck wearing a 'Snell' or AMA approved helmet will cause me to pull a muscle in my neck, and possible in accident break my neck. 'Tunnel Vision'.. Also, hearing is impaired.

    Here--- I just googled this, you might find it interesting to see the other side of the issue that never makes it to main stream media. as with all money making political schemes. BTW, several years ago I was fined $450.00 for not having my chin strap buckled. that's same as no helmet. and also draws big money in fines. Check this out....

    http://www.bikersrights.com/statistics/notsafe.html

    I wear one when riding my bike on the bike path.  If I did have a motorcycle, I would use one also.  Here in RI, it is not mandated, about 50% use them however.  Helmets are mandated for kids on bikes up to age 15. 

    I have seen the damage created by not wearing a helmet. Just because someone survives doesn't automatically make the outcome good. TBI (traumatic brain injury) from a fall is heart wrenching for all involved. Helmets save lives and brains.



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