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    If someone slips or doesn't slip and makes a racial slur, what can we, the public, do for or to them, instead of insisting that they lose their job and livelihood? What's a good punishment?

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    Unless it's on the books as being against the law to utter the slur, we still have freedom of speech in this country. No one should lose their job or livelihood because of something said in private (like what happened recently). Now that being said, companies are private entities and are allowed their own set of rules. If they do not want someone who works for them, especially a contracted person who may represent the company in some fashion, using slurs at work or in public media, then they would have the right to fire them. 

    tabber

    Colleen this is one we agree on.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    We really only disagree on one thing as far as I know.

    Are you asking about Don or Paula? They’ve both lost a lot because they couldn’t watch their own mouths. Lesson learned: If  you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all…….

    Arrogant rich people think they can say what they want! We can not change their feelings! Making a financial hurt is the only thing that is understood.    Always assume some one can hear you!   Like Julie says "nothing nice nothing said!

    mycatsmom

    He was probably half in the bag too, when he said it.

    Tabby, Tabs;


    When a person is in the public eye that person should act with decorum.  I personally have no time or space for racism. 


    Racism ticks me off.


    I honestly don't care when or why the words are said out loud.... the words are in the heart of a person and not acceptable to me..


    To bad, so sad, bad man.


    Fish of the day.....


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    Fish are not racist.  They only eat each other because some of them taste better than others.  A fish does not care about the colour of skin.... or scales.  It is only about delicious :D


     


     

    Benthere

    ....yum !
    FISH-O

    And, you look like a gum drop!!! Groupers like gum drops!
    Benthere

    Yikes....just thought I would drop in !
    FISH-O

    A Gold Spotted Grouper is coming your way... Run Gum Drop RUN!!!!
    tabber

    FISH-O don't get me wrong. I do feel racism is a bad thing. And it should be confronted when it rears it's ugly head. The public decided on a punishment for Mr. Sterling and he got it. My only point in this discussion is that I personally feel a person should not be punished for a private conversation they had in their home and someone taped it illegally and put it out in public. That should have been a behind closed door chit chat between the man and his girlfriend. Now if a person is talking about car bombing, she would have been a hero to 'run tell that'. But now she is a no good sleaze bag for bringing a private conversation to the public domain and ruining a good family. sorry.
    FISH-O

    One should always be careful of what is in one's heart. He did not become a very wealthy man by only having people of pale coloured skin working for him

    I once had a boss who said out loud to no one in particular that everyone who worked for him were children. He actually had the audacity to believe that he did all the work... That many may be wealthy as well, but he has lost all of his friends and all respect.

    Children specifically look up to athletes. The owner of an athletic team is in a place of power. If that man is above the rest of us then why should are children be anything but racist? Racism is disgusting. If we don't get on top of it now, we will never get on top of it. Racism is a serious subject.

    It seemed to be alright when Charles Barkley publicly stated ......" I hate white people "

    Ducky

    Moderator
    Where? When?
    Colleen

    Moderator
    "Once again, Barkley is in hot water, this time for saying, "See, that's why I hate white people" to a white reporter friend after answering a question about NBA groupies during an interview session during All-Star Weekend. ESPN ran with the story, creating a mild controversy over the weekend." http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-14/sports/1995045129_1_barkley-michael-jordan-espn

    Nothing we can do "for them", but if it's a person who is "high-profile", we can for instance, not buy a product if he/she is advertising it. If a politician, ask him/her to resign and/or don't vote for if up for election or re-election. If a sport's figure or entertainer, don't go to any event...

    I don't condone what don said, I think it's terrible but on the otherhand, freedom of speech has been attacked as well.  This conversation was private, I believe you should be free to say what you want in  private, he was recorded without his permission of a private conversation, this 'twit' turns it over to authorities, the media gets ahold of it and he is punished for speaking his mind IN PRIVATE and recorded against his will.  Then slandered by the media and millions of people forgetting this fact that it was an illegal recording and it was private.


    Now I make myself clear-- If this was something said on broadcast willingly then this would be wrong, in the eyes of the PC bunch, race baiters and the alike. And in that case, I would agree with them, but the fact that he makes a fool of himself is punishment enough. but also, because he is high profile they feel the need to bust him mainly for his previous success as a businessman. These people on the attack do not like successful old white guys.


    No attention to the 'twit' girlfriend that is with him soley for his money, new cars, fancy home and jewlery. She wants it all! And nobody sees wrong in that!  Magic Johnson ain't no saint, and I can give a list of others that have slandered people not of their political liking or color and get away with it. I have seen much more racist remarks coming from those that cry racist than those they accuse.   The whole thing is sick, and I am really tired of it. Good heavens people! there's not one of us that doesn't have a pet peeve that we keep to ourselves in private and not one of us would appreciate someone recording this personal pet peeve in private.


    Personally, I think the 'twit' should be arrested for senior abuse.

    tabber

    AMAN!!! I feel it's a disgrace that private conversation became a public downfall for this man. He did things right in his life. he paid his debt for doing some things wrong. it's sad for him and for everybody.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    "These people on the attack do not like successful old white guys."

    Sounds like racism to me, does it to you?

    Another great write up Vinny. I agree with you.

    Racial slurs are unacceptable no matter whom directed. That person has no etiquette. If job contract prohibits slurs, it also specifies consequences for breaching.  As a first step he or she should be asked to aplogise and be forgiven by the person slured at.  Failing that follow the terms of the contract. As for others, the idiot should be ignored because he or she has a foul mouth. Dont let it stick to you. If you ignore, their intended agenda fails for lack of reaction. AND THAT IS A PUNISHMENT!   

    tabber

    sawali, i agree & to take it a step further i believe a good punishment for people that get in trouble for racial slurs is to have them do some type of money oriented help to the group offended. Build a school, send all the kids of that community to driver's education training, take some type of training on racial sensitivity, something to help the person grow in the area of racial tolerance. i am sick of seeing people lose their jobs over saying the wrong thing. there are better solutions.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    What should his ex girlfriend's punishment be for illegally turning a private conversation (which took place in his home) over to the media? She's now lying trying to claim someone stole the recording that only she should have known about. Who knows to go looking for a recording that she made when it was just her and Donald in the house? Who knew she even made the recording? She's a liar and the media took one tiny snippet out of context from an hour long recording and sold it to the pc crowd.

    http://www.cafemom.com/articles/in_the_news/171467/heroic_bus_riders_beat_up?utm_medium=sem2&utm_campaign=prism&utm_source=outbrain&utm_content=0


    guess its them Arrogant rich people or is it the Black Rappers or just blacks can do it to blacks ?



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