We do have gun crime here in th UK, even though we have tough gun laws. Most people here don't want to own guns, and most people here would like to see more punishment to fit the crime. The area,where this shooting happened is rife with gangs and drugs, so it's not surprising that things like this happen there. We don't boast and brag about our gun laws, I don't know where you get that idea from, and most people here understand that in America it's your right by law to own a gun if you want to, and defend yourselves with them, we don't want that right here, you have it and it's your choice whether you keep it or not.
Colleen
Sunny, I see a lot of "we" in your comment but as I stated above, I know people in the UK who do not agree with your views. They want the ability to defend themselves. You must have missed past gun arguments here. People have compared their country's gun laws to the US gun laws and have boasted that they are a safer country than the USA because of their laws. Just about every gun law question that appears on this forum has always gotten it's share of people pointing out how bad the USA is because we do not have gun laws as tough as theirs. As for your last line, we will keep our 2nd amendment right because the majority of Americans want it. If we give up one right, we may as well give them all up. The 2nd amendment protects and defends the 1st amendment and so on.
sunnyB
I think you may have got the wrong idea from my answer Colleen. What I'm saying is, most of the people I know of would not want to carry or own a gun in the UK. But. We respect the fact that it is part of your history and your right to do so ,if you want to. Most of my friends and myself would like to see a punishment to fit the crime,ie the death penalty imposed for cold blooded murder and rape. However ,that will probably never happen due to the liberal attitude of the people who run our country , irrespective of political party. There are parts of the world where it is probably necessary to carry a gun for protection, and if I lived in such places I would want to do the same. A friend of mine lived in South Africa for a few years, and he always carried a gun for that reason. So, I really don't see the need for anyone to carry guns in the UK , but as I said, it's your right to own a gun in America and I don't think anyone will change that, and it's certainly not our place in the UK to tell people in other countries what they should do. There is far too much of that going on in the world.
Colleen
OK, I think I get what you mean. You were speaking of people you know personally when you said, "we".
All I can say is, thank God that here in the USA, we still have the right to defend ourselves. Thank God that we have people willing to defend that right. We will not go down with out a fight. American pride and Patriotism will work against a government agenda to just take control over the people and tell them they can not defend themselves and take away the ability to defend themselves. We will not bow down to dictatorship and believe the dictators actually care enough to keep us safe. Gun control laws are nothing more than agendas to give governments power over the people. So, in a nutshell, (outside of being a run away train in my thoughts here) THAT is how this could happen in a country that has tough gun control laws.