IamPamela313
What Happen Before The Big Bang?
They are the biggest questions that science can possibly ask: where did everything in our universe come from? How did it all begin? For nearly a hundred years, we thought we had the answer: a big bang some 14 billion years ago.
But now some scientists believe that was not really the beginning. Our universe may have had a life before this violent moment of creation.
@facebook - I suggest you reread what was stated. You will find it was not stated, what, GOD "can" or "cannot" do!
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leeroy
If someone has beliefs that the universe is, or should be, a certain way, it is only natural that they give importance to corroborating evidence or arguments that enhance their beliefs.
No one is without influences, whether they are religious, cultural, philosophically idealist, educational backgrounds, or anything else. We all have biased opinions, mine would reflect my beliefs in God being the creator of the universe.
I do have to point out that according to our known laws of physics, things never go from a disorganized state to an organized state through random events or explosions. Things do go from an organized state to a disorganized state though.
leeroy
Gabalis
plato's student
No one is without influences, whether they are religious, cultural, philosophically idealist, educational backgrounds, or anything else. We all have biased opinions, mine would reflect my beliefs in God being the creator of the universe.
I do have to point out that according to our known laws of physics, things never go from a disorganized state to an organized state through random events or explosions. Things do go from an organized state to a disorganized state though.
| 13 years ago. Rating: 9 | |
Thanks, I've also heard it expressed this way as well: If you threw a stick of dynamite into a news paper plant, what would the results be? Chaos every time, you wouldn't get a perfectly put together phone book....
That's ridiculous to think that out of chaos will come order.
That's ridiculous to think that out of chaos will come order.
Indeed, Leeroy do you discribe your self well, but let the final influence come from within your own heart after the gathering of all you can know of the world of men. For this is your True Voice listen well to it. For then you will know with certainty the beloved Christ God within. ;-)
life itself is the antithesis of entropy
from chaos came a self replicating system called life. life is about establishing patterns, again a stab at the second law and "from chaos comes order"
from chaos came a self replicating system called life. life is about establishing patterns, again a stab at the second law and "from chaos comes order"
IamPamela313
deepest question: What banged?
Answer: Instead of the universe inexplicably springing into existence from a mysterious initial singularity, the Big Bang was a collision between two universes like ours existing as parallel membranes floating in a higher-dimensional space that we’re not aware of.
| 13 years ago. Rating: 7 | |
Headless Man
wonderer
FreedomFighter
Our universe always existed, just not in the current physical format. There is another dimension called the immaterial dimension, or the spiritual realm. The spiritual realm always existed, with eternal spiritual beings, of which you and I are one.
Darkness began to permeate and overtake the spiritual realm, when the spiritual beings started turning away from the Light of God. God then consumed the darkness, and "flushed" it out of the spiritual realm, creating our darkened physical universal realm. What we now observe when we look out at the darkened sky at night, is the remains of what was in the spiritual realm, only now in a physical format.
We are simply repeating everything that happened in the spiritual realm as we go through time. In other words, Genesis will repeat itself again as mankind draws further away from God into "darkness." Read "The Binary Effects of God," for more in depth understanding.
| 13 years ago. Rating: 6 | |
<a href="/users/2637/freedomfighter/">@FreedomFighter</a> - I like what you said, very well explained. Also, I will give some thought on your suggestion, reading "The Binary Effects of God".
TU
<a href="/users/1635/leeroy/">@leeroy</a> - Thanks for the tu. when you find the book and rehash some of your memory, please by all means give me your feedback!!!
I gave you a t.u., read part of the book a while back, I'm going to see if I can dig it up again, thanks for your answer.
Gabalis
KARL
eggplant
Was there? It's still only a theory. Now there is string theory.
bigben
| 13 years ago. Rating: 5 | |
Yes, it is a theroy, but scientific theroy is different from standard theroy. In science when a hypothesis (or idea) reaches the level of scientific theroy there has been such an accumulation of proof that it's considered unreasonable to contest it. For example, the theroy of gravity. It's a theroy, but no one is going to jump off a building to disprove it.
Darci13
whovin
TSC
dwayne1716
PEOPLE LOVER DID I STRIKE A NERVE DID I MAKE YOU MAD DID I BUST A BUBBLE WISE MEN STIL SEEK MY MASTER JESUS CHRIST.FOOLS PUT THERE FAITH IN THE TEACHINGS OF OTHER MEN WITH AGENDAS.
Gabalis
| 13 years ago. Rating: 5 | |
How can a loud nasty creature know or say anything good, such a creature cannot. For it has no good to offer. Ignore any thing this dark troll has to spew out. Stand fast, don't get caught in the momentum.
nogradiremete
robertgrist
The Bible is brief on the subject of the creation of the Grand Universe. Any story to appease the illiterate masses while developing a recorded history that leaves the rabble sated and looking for the good parts… The facts are sparse even now and there have been vast numbers of star gazers looking into the night sky looking for stories that will make them famous. I look at our history and as strange as this may sound, I think the Grand Universe is smaller than we have been told. I think the Catholics were closer to the truth about the Universe before the lens grinders came along. It was church policy that the lights in the sky were "crystal spheres”. When I was studying how light is bent by thermal bands or layers in the atmosphere it occurred to me that the view we have of objects in space are subject to the same optical principals as I was seeing in heat bands…producing mirages. That the atmosphere here has much the same effect as a globe fish bowl. From the outside of the fish bowl the fish looks larger and viewing the room from inside the fish bowl the room appears to be much larger than it is outside the fish bowl. And looking from one fish bowl to another across the room…the distances appear to be vast and things appear smaller and more distant. Try it with a hand held camera yourself and put water in the bowl too if your camera is waterproof or you have a mirror.
Our little universe of about 8 planets and a sun contains an atmosphere even to the outer most planets. I may be a thin atmosphere but it is sure to impose a lensing effect out there for quite a ways. I don’t think the astronomers have it all figured out.
robertgrist
Our little universe of about 8 planets and a sun contains an atmosphere even to the outer most planets. I may be a thin atmosphere but it is sure to impose a lensing effect out there for quite a ways. I don’t think the astronomers have it all figured out.
| 13 years ago. Rating: 4 | |
Umbriel since my empirical data is based on observation and consideration only and my historical reference attributed to a fading memory, I appreciate the praise. The only question therein relates to the basic facts in observation. Since the observation involving globe fish bowls is what it is, wouldn’t the same facts apply on a grand scale as well?
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Are you saying your intelligent is superior to GOD and you can explain the theory of the big bang when the universe began or created?
IamPamela313
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| 13 years ago. Rating: 4 | |
If that was the case, I would be telling you what happen before the big bang, instead of asking what happen before the big bang!
Many people seem to think we can explain the theory of beginning of time or evolution, and yet they don't want put God in the equation,This doesn't mean we can't solve some of our problem,only thing I see solve is we just made a bigger mess of everything in this world.I totally agree with you Pam If you can explain what happen before TBB. We might get to somewhere.
If I'm not mistaken someone on this site said you can't get something out of nothing,well I got news for you! scientist & mathematician,haven't been able to solve this problem,because it isn't an equation,just like the 0 when it first came out had no value now which is better $10.or $10000.
My point is that you can make something out of nothing,and that our mistake in our thinking or comprehending the unknown.
My point is that you can make something out of nothing,and that our mistake in our thinking or comprehending the unknown.
matheneyg
In the beginning the was nothing God said let there be light Boom Big Bang. Prove it wrong
bigben
| 13 years ago. Rating: 4 | |
That's an easy challenge for you to make, since it's impossible to prove a negative. It's not a matter of non-religious people proving god didn't do, it's incumbent on you religious zealots to prove he did.
Grit Savage
bigben
Our universe couldn't have had life before the big bang because it didn't exist before that.
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Gabalis
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Grit Savage
bigben
| 13 years ago. Rating: 4 | |
Who told you that? were you there when the universe began? no one know this,unless you were with God when He created everything that was made without human hand.
To facebook: It's science, not some religious fiction. If you want to believe in god, help yourself. However, it's arbitrary, capricious, and has not one shred of evidence to validate it. At least with science there are test and ways to prove a theroy. You religious people always want to bring god into it. That allows you to make a statement that can't be proven one way or the other. In other words non-sense. I've got news for you, god is a fiction created by man that allows him to function and avoid the stresses of having a finate life, with no afterlife.
An idea is always before the form, a subject before and object, a consciousness before an organism.
That reasoning is a human construct siimply because it's difficult for us to imagine non-existance. Furthermore, the universe is a physical object, and again, there is no evidence of a supreme being formulating an idea before the occurence, other than your desire for it to be so.
Bighen1 you say it science where when did they prove anything with all this theories big fat zero,if anything they study from the so call fictional book,and how can you argue something that your totally ignorant of,it not hard to see your intelligent is very narrow mind.You know you can shoose to argued with those that choose to believe of what bring them GLORY.For they prefer the applause of men,more of a creator that explain how everything that was made without human hand,And beside our little human brain,wont even come close too all the scientist are only looking fer evidence that will prove nothing,and if they did it only open another can of worms.
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so Scientific theories proves nothing huh!
go ahead and disprove science without using your PC/laptop/Iphone etc..
so Scientific theories proves nothing huh!
go ahead and disprove science without using your PC/laptop/Iphone etc..
To facebook: Did you say science proves nothing? Well, there is a little theroy called "the theroy of gravity" that basically says that what goes up must come down. If you don't believe this theroy then why don't you do us a favor and go jump off a cliff to prove your point, also, try to write a coherent sentence.
dmolsen0305
The truth is : no one really knows, all anyone can do is speculate.
Gabalis
| 13 years ago. Rating: 4 | |
The Caps and the language is quite obvious, thus the mentality Pam. Thus his TU's and TD's have no more value than his "all knowing" attitude. Don't be hurt by this creature, just ignore him as all should, he is an ignorant troll.
daren1
zorro
i know the scientist claim the matter spun tighter and tighter untill it exploded. if this happened every thing in the universe would still be in its realitive orbit too manny objects are going in too many dirrection for this to have happened there are several 4th grade level experiments you can try at home or you can keep on beleiving the atheist scientist that spew this garbage
Grit Savage
Grit Savage
dwayne1716
Gabalis
| 13 years ago. Rating: 2 | |
which 4th grade experiments are you referring to? or did you happen to go to school with its very own particle accelerator? :-)
the big bang aint basic physics mate! plus you never replied to my question, which 4th grade experiments are you referring to? ;-)
nothing plus nothing makes nothinya gota have something if you want to make a universe ithink thats in a song
RCC was the first orthodox/fundamental Christian Church authorized by the Dictator Contantine, who "dogmatically" killed all who refused coversion to the twisted views and interpetations of the Ante-Nicene-Fathers, who were the "sub-apostles" some 100 to 200 AD years after the crucifixion. All the other so called christian variations, demoniations, off shoots, were also fundamentalists. All of which all were thus the of the same seed, born of that dark father's court and his sub-apostles who were not Christ's original Disciples. The "Roman Empire' remains, just changed its metaphorical cloak. This dark influence continues even unto this day. But be of good cheer, this will gradually change; turn around to the TRUTH with the comming of the New Age promised in Aquarious.
I believe God will create world that it will bugle the mind of any theologies ,We are just a species that God is allowing us to decide what is it we really want out of life,We don't want to be like robot,or control by a push bottoms, We want to be like God and make our own decision,and prove ,That the Greatest power is Love,,This was the whole reason that He demonstrated in this WORLD of ours By what HE did on mt CALVARY.
| 13 years ago. Rating: 1 | |
pjg1280
plato's student
IF THERE WAS A BIG BANG EVERY THING IN THE UNIVERSE WOULD BE SPINNING IN THE SAME DIRECTION IT IS NOT. BIG BANG= BIG BULLSHIT
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dwayne1716
| 13 years ago. Rating: -2 | |
dwayne I how do you know everything is spinning in different directions if you don`t believe the science ot the Big Bang? Selective belief maybe?
i base my beliefs on faith in god the bible backs me up with a very accrurate account of the history of the events of the day i dont pick out the parts that suit me and poo-poo the parts that make me uncomfortable and trust me some do
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Big Bang is loud or what,who are you to say what God can do?