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    What do you think of Monsanto GMO's etc ?

    Having recently gone slightly off grid, I now get everything i put into my body from local farms and if i can't get it locally  we have a group that sources completely organic produce from other states.


    Monsanto, Syngenta Koch etc etc are companies that are basically killing people with their drugged and or genetically modified produce!


    Monsanto recently had a law passed in the USA that states that no legal action can be taken against them if their products have harmed/killed people, scarey stuff don't you think!


    Monsanto recently hired the mercenary company Blackwater to track down activists against monsanto!


    this is what's going on  http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/russia-warns-obama-monsanto there is so much more information out there and it is terrifiing.


    if any of you lovely folks what to fight back at the stores, you should defo download this for android or apple smart phones, you scan with your phone and it lets you know who owns what and what's bad or good about the company - http://www.buycott.com/     :-)


    more info for those that care. ;-)


    http://www.examiner.com/article/gmo-foods-cause-tumors-and-early-death-according-to-new-studies


     


    http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-of-the-bees-genetically-modified-crops-and-the-decline-of-bee-colonies-in-north-america/25950


     


    http://fracturedparadigm.com/2013/04/02/mass-bird-deaths-linked-to-usda-and-big-agra/


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    +4  Views: 1642 Answers: 6 Posted: 11 years ago
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Grit I read your comment to ROMOS and feel I should point out to you that the genetically engineered plants are not just sprayed with pesticides, the pesticide is actually embedded into the plant. There is no washing away the pesticide before human consumption. The pesticide is ingested with the food. So yes, people are eating poison when they eat food with GMOs in it. Studies are now beginning to show a link between ADHD (among other health issues) and the ingestion of GMOs.
    Grit Savage

    well aware of that Colleen :-)
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Some information concerning GMOs and the fact that it has never been properly researched http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Safety/biotech/290820090926_gmos_in_foods.html
    Grit Savage

    you'll love this one Colleen ;-)

    Monsanto Protection Act put GM companies above the federal courts.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/apr/04/monsanto-protection-act-gm
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Oh yes, I know about that already. Obama went to great lengths to protect these companies. I wonder how much of a kickback he's getting. The CT State Senate just passed legislation that all food containing GMOs must be labeled. The N.Y. State Senate unfortunately just voted against the same legislation.
    lindilou

    Grit....try a little of this for a start >>> http://www.care2.com/causes/monsanto-surrenders-ends-all-gmo-lobbying-in-europe.html
    Let's keep this rockin' !!

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    We, as human beings, truly seem to believe that the food we eat could not possibly affect our health! Combine that belief with adding some prescription drugs to our bodies because the doctor says we "need" them. More people are on more prescription drugs than ever before, while eating more processed foods than ever before. Obesity rates are going through the roof while scientists strive (with millions of dollars) to figure out a cheaper, faster way to feed the world and pharmaceutical companies feverishly research the next miracle pill. Simply put, it has nothing to do with compassionate people caring about the starving children! It's all about money....no big mystery....money, money, money!!!


    Furthermore, each of us can put food to the test. Try eating nothing but REAL, WHOLE, food for three months....nothing processed, nothing packaged, nothing GM'd, nothing radiated....just REAL FOOD which is more expensive and only obtained from a farmer's market or your own garden. Then tell me that you feel no differently! Stop buying the "marketing" of the processed, modified, tampered with, food companies. It's sinful!!!

    Monsanto GMO's are dangerous and not fit for anyone to eat. My state just passed a law that all food with GMOs in it MUST be clearly labeled. Ben and Jerry's just announced last week that they will stop using GMO by 2014 having recognized the dangers of it. Countries around the world are burning GMO crops because of the danger of this stuff that they won't even feed to starving kids. America should follow in the footsteps of countries like Hungary, Ecuador and most EU nations in banning GMOs outright. Thankfully people, governments and businesses are waking up to the dangers of this crap. Once all states demand labeling, then that will force food companies to stop using it. Thus we get around the secret law, (Monsanto Protection Act ) signed when no one was looking and agendas to protect Monsanto while it poisons millions. 


    ROMOS

    There is no proof that GM products Kill.
    ROMOS

    <sigh>

    I don't care about Monsanto or any other company that produces GM products, I move with the times, I adjust to the survival standards of the times, GM products are needed to feed the ever growing human population, they are much better than most of the processed foods that humans have been consuming for generations now, I don't stop flying in aeroplanes because of the threat of crashing, I don't stop travelling in cars because of the threat of accidents happening, if GM products can help the starving people in this world as it is today so be it. We've got to do something to ease poverty and improve the standards of foods that we eat,


    GM products don't kill people, science moves on continuously, we've got to move with it.


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    If it helps feed these children I'll rest easy!


     

    Grit Savage

    wow. if you don't care you are part of the problem!
    if you are happy for yourself and your loved ones to be lied to, go for it! if you are happy shoving food down your neck without knowing what it actually is, enjoy!
    poverty is created by bad politics and corporate greed if you are happy with that, rest easy!
    you say you wont stop traveling by plane or car!! what an earth has that got to do with the food you eat? eating should not result in an accident.
    pull your head out of the sand mate, read up and get educated. these guys have managed to rise above the law (in the US)and can legally try out just about anything they want on you. but if you are happy with that, have fun!! :-)
    ROMOS

    I know and care what goes down my throat,the paranoia about GM products is obviously getting to you mate, has it actually affected the health of you or your family? Or maybe all the processed crap that everyone throws down their throats is doing them good, live with it, it isn't going away, grow with science, there are lots of other threats that may cease your existence.
    Grit Savage

    It ain't paranoia mate! its called an informed decision using science to make my informed decision! science archives awesome amazing leaps in knowledge and understanding but there are always companies that will use whatever they can to make obscene amounts of cash for themselves. do you really think they do it for the benefit of the human race? no mate they do it for profit!! you say grow with science, thats what i have always done anyone on this site can back that up! why don't you use scientific method and do a bit of research.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=monsanto
    http://commonground.ca/2013/06/gmos-fooling-the-world-for-20-years/
    http://www.aljazeera.com/Services/Search/?q=monsanto
    ROMOS

    I eat healthily, I drink healthily, I live in the real world, I worry about things that may affect me and mine, I have researched lots of scientific evidence and not much of it convinces me that GM products are harmful, all multi national companies have to make money,same goes for the little Asian guy that owns the local corner shop.
    Grit Savage

    Within my circle of friends I just happen to have two professors in genetics at UNSW and Macquarie university Sydney, three Pharmacologists at the same Uni's as well as a couple of GP's who practice in the Sydney CBD. we have regular discussions (over a nice healthy GMO free dinner) on the dangers of GMO's and the unscrupulous companies involved, they are in complete agreement. that's partly where my informed decision comes from.
    comparing a multi-national company with a little corner shop is rather naive, its like comparing the moon landing to having a bicycle!
    if you're happy you have enough information to make your choices, fine!
    I am more than happy to have better tasting healthier GM free food and drink at the expense of big agribusiness bullys. :-)
    ROMOS

    You are welcome to your "informed" opinion, have a happy and healthy life,could you do without the person that washes the dishes if you were the Head Chef? (bicycle? moon landing?) gimme a break!!!
    Grit Savage

    Of course you need a dish washer if you are a head chef thats how a kitchen works! how that relates to the general population being fed genetically modified food sprayed with poisonous pesticides with the endorsement of a government that receives very very generous donations from agribusiness lobbyists and giving said agribusiness immunity from prosecution from ANY wrong doing, just eludes me!
    ROMOS

    You obviously don't get "analogy"?
    Blinkered thinking never gets anywhere other than one direction, science moves on, big companies will always take what they can, it's called progressive economy.
    Grit Savage

    as analogies go mate yours just don't!
    "progressive economy" these companies have no social conscience and do not trade fairly in any way! you have obviously decided to bend over and accept whatever they say (spot the analogy), they just love people who do that! calling me blinkered is hilarious, my eyes are wide open!
    Colleen

    Moderator


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    hector5559
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    Ted i think you and farther Jack shoud seek a comprimise,from your good friend Dougal,and have a cup of tea,go,on go,on go on,I once Worked for an offshoot of them once called Jablos,I once Worked for an offshoot of them once called Jablos

    It's just a matter of time til we go back to trying to make lamp shades from human skin, a la Nazis. 

    Colleen

    Moderator
    If you read the link I put in, you will see that scientists are putting human genes into corn so the corn can produce it's own spermicide. I USE to eat corn.
    Bob/PKB

    I think I will plant some corn so I know where it comes from. YUCK
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Sorry, meant to TU you earlier, got it now and wanted to add, you do not know how close to the truth you are here...truly. We need to clean house on capitol hill.
    Bob/PKB

    It's hard to stay optimistic.....

    The World According To Monsanto >>> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-world-according-to-monsanto/  


    Watch it and weep.....


     


     

    Colleen

    Moderator
    So much truth to this. People better wake up FAST! If this truly were meant only for the starving children, they would not still be starving and we would not have bees and plant life dying because of this crap.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    YAY! Good for Europe! Now if we can get Obama out of office, that will void his protection order for the slime bags and we will be able to get rid of GMOs in the USA too. Things are getting tight for Obama. I do not think it will be long now.......
    lindilou

    Ya baby...good and tight...these evil giants, especially the two-headed variety...(one head invites you in for dinner while the other is planning 'you' for dinner)...must fall once and for all...no repeating is necessary, we get it....we must stop giving our power away.

    Did you all stop to think every plant animal in existence is genetically modified. Its the reason we exist as we are today. There will always be genetic modification until the earth becomes killed off by the sun billions of years from now. All you people hear is what the news wants you to hear. Its gets your attention to them. Sure sometimes it happens when you genetically alter something you get bad results. Look at genetic abnormalities in people. Should two parents with heritable genetic diseases that would possibly produce children with crippling conditions be allowed to have kids ? Its not fair to the kids being born to have a life like that.  These people that develop these strains of food look at unlocking the genetic potential of food. Ones that will survive drought, pests, whatever. Your real protest should be against farmers using pesticides on wheat or other food products, spray on the cotton that makes clothes, From my schooled knowledge of genetc variation and engineering , I am not at all concerned about Monsanto. Did you know 80 % of corn , soybans are GM ? Why not protest that. I wish you would. That keeps driving the stock down. I hope it gets back down to 85.00 point. I will be buying then. So please keep protesting. Oh, don't forget about the alfalfa fed to dairy cows that make milk. That should be the next protest. So spend your hard earned money and spare time protesting. Just go natural - organic. Wow , just saw on tv Hepatitis A outbreak in Oregon for berries. We are all going to die. My protest is against swimming pools. Bacteria breeding and the #1 killer of children. Not guns. But the news wont tell you that , will they.

    Grit Savage

    everything evolves slowly which gives things time to adapt! this would happen over thousands/millions of years! commercial GMO's have been around since the 80s, nowhere near enough time to adapt.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/gmo-scandal-the-long-term-effects-of-genetically-modified-food-on-humans/14570


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