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    Not a Q. Got bad news from my Physical Therapist today- he feels my chances of working are "Grim". Guess I'd like a little moral support if that's OK

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    Sorry to hear that doo.  Keep in mind though, that the health care professionals are not necessarily always right.  Sometimes their patients surprise even them.

    doolittle

    I hope so- but it has been 6 years and multiple PTs etc. I'm running short on my savings.
    Ducky

    Moderator
    I suppose by now, you must have done your own research. Are there other options for getting healthly?
    doolittle

    Gosh, I've tried a Naturalpath, Chiropractor, Yoga, Massage, Myofacial release, Acupuncture, and Reike Therapy, PT in a pool (twice) on land (3 times)- any other suggestions are welcome!!!
    Ducky

    Moderator
    Those are the kinds of practioners that I was thinking of as well. None of them can help you? :(

    Did you get hurt on the job? My neighbor is collecting workmans comp. He gets $782 a week, and will get that for 500 weeks as long as he's under a doctors care. SSDI is $1,100 a month.


    Hope things go good for you, hate hearing of anyone with chronic pain.

    doolittle

    A long time ago I got workman's comp but my lawyer sucked in court- so I got a few bucks but no ocational rehab and training...since thm Ive been 'on my own'
    Thaks for your kind thoughts!
    ed shank

    doo, I would try a free consultation with another attorney. What's to lose?
    doolittle

    Oh, I'll get a lawyer who specializes in DISIBILITY!!!!
    lambshank

    Doo,if you were in a union they will get you representation for nothing, and the best,not sure where your from though and it may not apply...just a thought
    doolittle

    Oh I only wish We had been Unionized!

    Not trying to depress you but, do you now qualify for SSDI? You can collect and continue to work at something for so much a month. Not a bad state, retirement.......

    doolittle

    Yeah, I think I do...tried 2 years back..but My back is worse and so is the pain. I've got to get a Doc on board.
    jhharlan

    Do it! Sometimes the doctor's office will file for you....
    doolittle

    I think I need a lawyer too- a damn good one!
    jhharlan

    My doctor's office filed for me, nothing to it. Or try one of those lawyers they show on TV, you only have to give them is part of your pay for so long. They know what they're doing, this is how they keep food on the table.....
    doolittle

    Thank Julie- usedful informatin!

    &

    lindilou

    Blueberry Girl!!! Recovery is awesome and works for dogs too! And horses! My rt. knee was crushed when a horse decided it was time for me to be off so he reached back and grabbed me by the knee and tossed me thru the air...he absolutely crushed my knee leaving his giant teeth marks on either side...it has never recovered completely and can flare at the most inopportune times. Recovery helps with this almost immediately! Expensive here but worth every nickel! ;)
    dowsa

    Wish you well dear "FISHY"
    melandrupert

    Fishlet where can you get this I have had a frozen shoulder for a year now done all the exercises they have given me still gives me great deal of pain at night is it on the internet!!!! xxx
    doolittle

    Thanks fishy!

    I can only wish you well doo, lots of good advice here.

    doolittle

    Thank You!

    I did not see Hypnotherapy on the list for pain and there is also Healing Touch Therapy for pain which resembles Reiki but is a bit different in that many work on the one unless you know some one person who is very very good(my step- Maw). Medicine man may help with some purification ceremony and this can help dispel the pains of the past that can rear their heads via cell-memory compounding the difficulty. THC for pain is not unheard of as are other topical herbal remedies...there are also some water therapies that may prove beneficial for you...see Jethro Kloss' book "Back to Eden" for these. Massage works wonders for some pain sufferers as well and hot-cold remedies may help at least to lessen the requirement of chem-pain management. One good herbal ointment using Arnaca is a topical pain remedy and last but not least (for now anyway) try a Chinese herbalist! I send you Love and Peace Doc and God-speed the healing process for you! Now!   :)

    doolittle

    Thanks Lindi!
    Ducky

    Moderator
    I believe that it is called "Therapeutic Touch" in some areas (I forgot about that one) and people say that it really does help.
    lindilou

    It does Ducky! My Maw is a therapeutic Touch Practitioner and she has helped people that were on their last hope...it works like a miracle!! :)
    lindilou

    Doc, please read this cool essay?!>>>http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/MindBodyandSpirit/native-american-healing
    This has a misleading title in that it references cancer but this is just one of the many ailments that Shamen and women work around. Peace.
    Ducky

    Moderator
    lindilou...I am trained to Level 1 (many years ago) but didn't continue on...I was amazed though, to see some results.
    lindilou

    Ducky, I'm not trained but me Maw showed me enough to be savvy and the "un-ruffling" technique has helped me with the children (and others) so well...like a charm!We've prevented bruises from forming and watched as cuts seemed to cease bleeding and almost close back up before our eyes using the laser technique! Amazing energy work! ;)

    doolittle first of all I am sorry to hear this the second point is they are not always correct and third of  all there are alot of people who could help I dont know anyone as we are so far way from each other I have been off work with a bad back and I know how you feel the pain is really bad the other day it took twenty mins to get out of the bed , so I went on tramadol which is the only thing that worked for me and my phisio woman now she teaches in the USA her name is berylharper@ukgateway.net  try emailing her and ask for her to put you intouch with someone over there good luck doolittle and a prey is on its way to you now and dont give up xxx

    lambshank

    mel,tramadol stopped working for me years ago,could be the same for doo
    doolittle

    Thanks Mel. Tramadol is good stuff- I cant take it but I'm glad it is working for you. Its been 6 years of pain and multiple practitioners but I will e-mail berylharper and see what she thinks. Thanks for the prayers.
    melandrupert

    lambshank yea know what you mean thanks xxx
    melandrupert

    doolittle glad to be of help yea I think its agood idea give her a email to see what she says good luck hope you feel a bit better I know I shouldnt say this but i have heard that the weed does help with cronick pain! Haaa xxx
    Ann

    Hi Mel. Sorry to hear you are in so much pain. I am always very skeptical of the medical field. I did some research and and many Doctors believe that pain in the lower back are psychological in origin. These cases may be from deep-seated emotional and stress-related problems.. Other causes are poor posture improper footwear and walking habits, improper lifting., slauching while standing and a mattress that is too soft. Kidney and bladder problems and female pelvic disorders may also produce backache.
    Dr. john Sarno has written some very good books on backaches. You can look him up on the Net.
    I hope you feel better soon. Love & prayers Ann
    melandrupert

    Ann thank you so much for that info will look him up I know you are probley right on the stress the day it happened I was standing 12 hrs far too long at my age haha I do have a memory foam mattress and i wear really good trainers when i am at work they are called sketchers thanks for the info Ann xxxx
    lindilou

    You are right about the "weed" mel...there are over 100 research papers available on the net (Google Scholar) showing the weed is a medicine with powerful benefits...nay sayers have only un-supported opinions. I suggest this for any adult person suffering chronic pain! Also Music! Music helps to soothe the savage beast of pain. Thanks for sharing this melandruper!!!Peace.
    melandrupert

    lindilou thanks for that yea I have been watching on the tv in the states Colarado where you can get it if you have a perscription very interesting program and the research is brilliant peace to you sweetheart xxx
    lindilou

    omg...my response to mel above...looks like I'm telling Doo too go forth and party...doobs...tunes...all's missin' are the coolies!! Rock on DooLittle!! hahahahaha!
    lindilou

    ...uh oh...has anyone seen G.T. Grip around lately?? hmmm....let's hope the good Constable has an open mind on this one...shall we?? hee hee?
    melandrupert

    Fishlet thanks for the info xxx
    melandrupert

    Fishlet :-) ditto xxx
    doolittle

    This Is Officer G.T. Grip badge # 13355

    Het Hem.

    I have no Official comment.
    I have issued a personal memo to Doolitle with all of the legal places to obtain the weeds.
    lindilou

    My response has been limited to a Whoop! ;)
    Thank you Occifer!!

    Doo, I hope you find some solution for the pain. 


    If only the advice and caring by your friends


    here could somehow ease some of it for you.


    A little card.....


    ""


    and a cheezy joke for ya.....


     A local business was looking for office help.


    They put a sign in the window, stating the following: "HELP WANTED. Must be able to type, must be good with a computer and must be bilingual. We are an Equal Opportunity Employer."



    A short time afterwards, a dog trotted up to the window, saw the sign and went inside. He looked at the receptionist and wagged his tail, then walked over to the sign, looked at it and whined.



    Getting the idea, the receptionist got the office manager. The office manager looked at the dog and was surprised, to say the least. However, the dog looked determined, so he lead him into the office. Inside, the dog jumped up on the chair and stared at the manager.



    The manager said "I can't hire you. The sign says you have to be able to type." The dog jumped down, went to the typewriter and proceeded to type out a perfect letter. He took out the page and trotted over to the manager and gave it to him, then jumped back on the chair.



    The manager was stunned but then told the dog, "the sign says you have to be good with a computer". The dog jumped down again and went to the computer. The dog proceeded to demonstrate his expertise with various programs and produced a sample spreadsheet and database and presented them to the manager.



    By this time the manager was totally dumbfounded! He looked at the dog and said "I realize that you are a very intelligent dog and have some interesting abilities. However, I still can't give you the job."



    The dog jumped down and went to a copy of the sign and put his paw on the sentences that told about being an Equal Opportunity Employer. The manager said "Yes, but the sign also says that you have to be bilingual."



    The dog looked at the manager calmly and said, "Meow!"


     

    lindilou

    LOL! Too cute Dardaigh! Meow! Gotta tell this one to the cats...they'll be furrociously catapulted into kitty hysteria!! ;D
    melandrupert

    haha very good xxx
    doolittle

    I love it!!
    Dollybird

    Hi daedaigh, Thanks for sharing that story, it is Brill.
    Dardaigh

    Well, hello Dolly, this is swell Dolly!
    Glad to share a sily joke with friends, girl. :)

    You certainly came to the right site for moral support , Little Doo, first of all i would seek a second opinion, and then take up the suggestions of the other members ( friends) you have nothing to lose  only gain, the very best to you.:)

    doolittle

    Thanks LLB!

    Doo, sorry to hear about your troubles and I have read what the people have said to you and I cannot input too much more than they have. I do think that after this amount of time without a paycheck, you should make it clear to your doctor that is not only your back that is in pain but you are having some bad financial pain as well. There are a few things they look for when it comes to a back disability and you will need to know what those are and you will to know them as well as you know the back of your hand. If I were you my total focus would be on researching all aspects of getting disability. 100%. You also need to change your mind set from I think I do to I know I do. Again sorry for your pain.     


    http://www.masslegalservices.org/disabilitybenefits

    doolittle

    Thanks ED

    I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind.


    Some come from ahead and some come from behind.


    But I've bought a big bat. I'm ready you see .


    Now my troubles are going to have trouble with me.


                                                                                Dr. Seuss

    doolittle

    Big Smile!!!! THX

    Prove him wrong, doolittle.  Fire him ASAP.  You can do it, baby!

    HI my dearest  friend  DOO. Sorry to hear about your pain .Back pain is terrible from "disc to nerve so on I hope you get some comfort from the reply`s from friends on the form and a tablet to ease the pain .MY JOSIE   gets rid of her "Pain  temporarily  with her big "TOE  "ME" OUCH !! my love and best wishes go with you dear friend .

    doolittle

    Thank You Dowsa!!!

    Hey Doo, not good news,I empathize, what I am recovering from may, or may not be of some help.I have just had an Implantable pulse generator fitted into my back, it is attached to several wires that run along my spine, the control device is wireless and I determine how much nerve stimulation I need anytime I require it, the process is tedious and takes several trials before they will put one in permanently (Ive just had mine fitted) it doesn't fix any problem, however gives huge pain relief by interrupting pain messages going to the brain.The brand I have is Eon patient programmer and is made by ANS a St,Jude medical company (American I think) but I'm in Oz and have had it done here, not sure where your from but it's a thought anyway, hope it may be of some help, but if not, find yourself a pain management specialist and get some relief so you can get on with your life, best of luck xx

    lambshank

    p.s am happy to provide more detail if you like
    doolittle

    I tried one- it didn't help :( but thanks for thinking of it!
    Deleted User

    Have they tried a kedamite 7 day infusion with you ?
    lambshank

    doo O.K, not sure it works for me either, I went back to my medication, did you have yours removed? I'm thinking about it, but I'm really tired of constantly being in hospital
    doolittle

    No wonder what is that?
    lambshank

    wonderdyke, no what is that?
    doolittle

    lamb- they put in a temporary one for about 2 weeks- I never got the permanent one.
    lambshank

    doo, I tried 3 before I got the permanent,but haven't had much success,very dissapointed, but thought it worth a try, back to the pills
    Deleted User

    It is a slow release drug horse tanquiliser (anesthetic), another infusion is Licinate but it is under a different name it is a 4 hour infusion , it can work for 6 months if you have been to pain management they may suggest it to you , there are also other infusions available.

    Also new medications for chronic pain , Jurnistar is a new slow release oxycontin which I find doesnt leave you feeling dopey...



    lambshank

    wonder,thanks I wasn't aware there was much more available,I have been on morphine based drugs for years,but they make me nauseous and are not ideal,(I find I am too reliant,and they lose their effectiveness) relief for 6 months sounds fantastic
    Deleted User

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine
    I spelt it wrong sorry

    Elplat is the other drug they use it for pain or cancer patients, because my bones were rejecting themselves I had to have Chemo..

    Pain patches are best as long as your not allergic to tape, they seem to control your pain Norspan patch is normally what they would start you on first.. But trying to control pain with drugs means you have to take it the same time every day :(
    doolittle

    thank You wonder!!!
    lambshank

    thanks from me too,wonder
    Deleted User

    No problem if you ever need help let me know I have been a guinea pig for the past 17 years..

    doolittle

    That makes my 6 look like child's play. I'm sorry you got hurt- and so young!
    Deleted User

    Don't be sorry last thing we want is sympathy, we just want some kind of quality in our live.. Remember that is most important :) good friends , family and finding things you enjoy.. :)
    doolittle

    You are right! AMEN!!!
    Dardaigh

    Hugs to you, Lambie for all you've gone through, too.

    Believe this. No matter how dark it appears now, everything works out exactly the way it should in the end. Without even asking, your needs are known ;)

    lindilou

    I love this answer...thanks for the reminder ! Peace.
    doolittle

    I do believe that! Just have to re-wire the old brain and qwell some of the fears! Thanks C!!!

    Doo, dont believe what they tell you. Be positive. Have you tried NST?(New structural Integration Techniques)? Yoga and meditation can make a big difference.


    Did you ever hear of Dr. John E Sarno? He wrote 4 Books on Back Pain.1) Mind over Back Pain 2)Healing Back Pain 3) The Mindbody Prescription 4) The troubled Mind.  He has had some great sucess, treating people with Back Pain.


    Have you ever been to a Osteopath? They can adjust you back from the neck down.


    There is a natural drug called Antraxanhin for back pain, it has very potent inflamatory properties and in many cases works more effectively than  NASIDS, without the side effects.You can get all the information on the Net.


    Dont give up, there is so much more to explore. xxx

    doolittle

    Thanks Ann!

    I know exactly how you feel I worked for 20 years before I was told to give up work or never walk again.


    This is just the beginning of your emotional roller coaster, you feel worthless, useless and you do feel the loss of wage, but now I think differently I put my health before wealth.


    You will appreciate things you never thought of before.


    Do not feel alone find yourself a hobby or something that helps you get through the day.


    Do pain management courses or clinics. And insure you have the tools to manage bad days.


    Find yourself a good support network whom will help you out when needed , also find out all the services available to you.


    Remember you are still you with or without your illness , you can still be a fantastic person or help others. These are rewards in themselves.


    Good luck


     

    doolittle

    Thanks- I've been out of work a long time so the worthless etc is over and the hobby incl. aka are in place...Guess I've always held on to the 'someday I'll be able to work etc"..but all of your advixce is great and thatnks for sharing about yourself!
    Deleted User

    I always had the hope I would work again, I stopped in my early 30's. I always thought I would work until I was 60 and I loved my job. Chin up your not alone XO

    Do they know what you have?
    lambshank

    hey Wonderdyke,that was very young to have such problems,was it an accident? I hope to still get back to work
    Deleted User

    I had a bad fall broke my back, now they have found things pressing against my spinal cord, the accident happened when I was 25.. I did struggle believing that my mind could beat the pain, you can not put mind over pain :(
    doolittle

    AMEN wonderdyke- I've tried bio-feedback and a bunch of meditation techniques but the pain always wins!!! :(
    lambshank

    wonder,so right about the pain,doesn't matter how positive you are, pain is pain and you really feel it,unfair to have such a nasty accident at that age
    Deleted User

    I have had C.B.T. .. Pain management see physiologists , psychiatrists as you all have done..

    I found the best pain management clinic in OZ to be the one run by doctor Brett Tod-hunter he is in Albury it was 3 week live in, I benefited from it, but as time does pass this is 4 years ago the techniques become old and you seem to get use to them :(..
    doolittle

    Yup, it seems your body gets used to lots of stuff...and the pain gets worse.
    Deleted User

    Another thing is to ask them to do a MRI of your brain, I found I was losing balance and lost all shoulder strength because I had something pushing on my spine. Don't forget to keep up your vitamin D levels, direct sunlight on the pain full areas does help.

    Another thing to try is Zen Liniment spray, a lot of heat rubs burn the skin rather than help the joint or area of pain. I find using this around sleep time helps.

    I don't know about You both but I find that wheather plays a big part in pain, if it is summer you swell , if its winter you swell and ache?

    I have tried a lot of medications, low dose anti depressants to stop nerve pain, epilepsy drugs the list goes on.

    If you ever need to chat let me know I will give you my email..

    So sorry to hear Doc,my thoughts and payers are with you pal, why not get a second opinion as mentioned above, you know that medicene is not an exact science who knows what the future holds perhaps they just might come up with an answer until then do what the good doc says and keep smilling..

    Hey doo, you've never told us what your regular line of work has been.  I'm wondering if there is something different you can do and enjoy?  At least think about volunteer opportunities to keep you busy....definitely something with animals  
    I have faith that you will be better than the doctor thinks, and you will do something for financial gain again.  One of my friends has been undergoing PT for about 18 months....it's taking a long time, but she is not giving up. I hope you don't, either.
    In the meantime, like ed shank said, get a good attorney and shoot for the moon.  
    You are on Benthere's prayer list, and that is a powerful place to be.
    You are in my thoughts and prayers, and I say, be realistic, don't ever give up hope, take baby steps, and see you on the flipside.  STAY STRONG.
    You are loved very much.  

    doolittle

    Thank You Bob!!!

    I have no advise for you but you seem to be a brilliant person! If nothing else you could be a consultant on many issues! You could work on the internet! I trully hope your pain eases and that you get financial support from somewhere! Blessings to you sweetie!

    doolittle

    Thank clu!

    Wobenzym N...read about it on line, and try a small bottle first (tablets)...it's been used in Germany for years; and just might help.  Gods Blessing you through many prayers in the mean time.  Peace

    doolittle

    Thank You!

    Doo: I’m sorry. I have had Chronic Pain for ten years. (injury)  I have adjusted to a different type of life. It took awhile.
    I have been through all those therapies you have tried. I don’t think any of them helped me. Methadone works fairly well and there’s no problem of addiction because there’s no high. : /  I believe it’s the strongest opiod you can take. 
    I hope we can be good “pen pals”    (((Doo))) 
    My pain doctor wants me to have a pain pump. I don’t like the idea -- not one bit! 

    itsmee

    I have no one to talk to about my problems. (My husband understands fortunately.)
    I did find a good group online but ...it didn’t work for me. I got the wrong person peesst off. I’m forever barred. : (
    doolittle

    I'll let the mods know you can have my e-mail address!
    itsmee

    Grrrreat! Will Colleen get in touch with me. I want her to give you my address too.

     Ireland doolittle, So sorry to learn about all the pain your in. I do hope have founf some good information, from answers you already got. I will kep you in my prayers. 





    ""

    itsmee

    One Smiley would be even better. In this case, Less is more.


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