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    Ken Blackwell: Holder’s ‘All-Out War’ on Voter IDs Is Obama Re-election Tool
    Thursday, 22 Mar 2012 12:41 PM
    By Jim Meyers and Kathleen Walter


    Former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell tells Newsmax that the Obama administration has “launched an all-out war on voter ID laws” to bolster the president’s re-election chances.


    The Republican activist also asserts that voter ID laws offer a “reasonable safeguard” to protect against voter fraud and ballot-box stuffing.


    Blackwell, who was secretary of state in Ohio from 1999 to 2007, also has been mayor of Cincinnati, undersecretary in the Department of Housing and Urban Development in the George H.W. Bush administration, and U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Commission. He now is vice chairman of the Republican National Committee's Platform Committee and a senior fellow with the American Civil Rights Union (ACRU).


    The ACRU has launched a new campaign called Protect Your Vote, an effort to protect states’ rights to require voters to present ID cards at the polling place.


    In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, Blackwell discusses the rationale behind the ACRU campaign.


    “Protecting the integrity of the ballot box is essential to our democracy,” Blackwell says.


    “Laws requiring voters to show identification at the polls are common-sense measures to prevent fraud and corruption and to ensure that each year’s election returns accurately reflect the will of the people.


    “With the attack led by the Obama Justice Department on voter ID laws across this country, ACRU has decided to mount a counteroffensive to protect the integrity of ballot boxes all across our country.


    “We basically want to make sure that people understand that [Attorney General] Eric Holder’s Department of Justice has launched an all-out war on voter ID laws and other measures to safeguard the electoral process.


    “Although Holder’s actions are purportedly to prevent minorities from being disenfranchised, the reality is that these actions are nothing more than a crass political move with the purpose of ensuring that President Obama gets re-elected.”


    Holder is trying to “short-circuit these legitimate measures to protect the integrity of our electoral process,” Blackwell says.


    The Justice Department recently blocked a new photo ID law in Texas and halted South Carolina’s law in December. Asked whether Holder’s Justice Department has become an Obama re-election tool, Blackwell responds: “Absolutely.”


    Holder already is under fire for his role in the Fast and Furious gunrunning operation — more than 100 members of Congress have signed a no-confidence resolution against the attorney general, demanded his resignation, or both.


    Blackwell continues: “What more than 30 states have tried to do is put in place a common-sense measure of voter ID so that people are assured that voters are who they purport to be, and voter IDs are commonplace in our culture. You need [an ID] for a driver’s license, for boarding an airplane, receiving a passport, purchasing alcohol or checking out a library book. So to use it to safeguard the integrity of the voting process at the voting station is pretty noneventful.


    “I just had the occasion of witnessing voting in Egypt at the end of January. I watched as Egyptians offered voter ID cards to say, I am who I purport to be.”


    He adds: “At the end of the day, it is a false issue to say show me how many millions of votes have been fraudulently cast. If you owned a bank would you wait until your bank is robbed before you put in safeguards to protect the dollars in your bank? The answer is no.


    “This is not a matter of saying there is voter fraud that’s run rampant, but we do have enough anecdotal evidence. We all know the horror stories of ACORN in 2008 and 2010. So there is enough evidence to suggest that we need to put things in place to protect this from going crazy.


    “This is a reasonable safeguard to protect against voter fraud and ballot box stuffing when we have sufficient enough evidence that there are some people who would do just that if given the opportunity.”


    Obama is visiting Ohio this week to defend his energy polices, while polls show people blame the president for high gasoline prices.


    “The people of Ohio and the people across the country are right to blame the president for the rising gas prices at the pump, because we are an energy-rich country,” Blackwell says.


    “There’s no reason why we should be dependent on gas or oil or any source of energy from any other country. People are very right to be angry at the rising gas prices because President Obama has actually short-circuited and discouraged the all-of-the-above approach that would have made us not only an energy sufficient country but an energy exporting country, producing jobs and more income in our country.”


    © 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.


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    Colleen

    Moderator
    I agree with this. Every legal American in the USA should have some form of ID proving who they are. Everyone has a SS number and a birth certificate. These two forms of ID can get you a state level picture ID in place of a license for those who do not have a license. Voting booths should be the most important place in the USA where people must prove who they are.

    14 Answers

    I agree that ID should be required. In fact, I thought it always was required............

    Colleen

    Moderator
    It's suppose to be but not all states ask for an ID. Some people are claiming that it's discriminatory towards those who can not afford to get an ID.
    jhharlan

    Bull...........
    Colleen

    Moderator
    That's what Obama is using to keep the voter ID's from being mandatory. He wants and needs the illegal Mexican votes.
    jhharlan

    That never crossed my mind...I am so naive......

    ID. schould be mandadatory for voting.

    Isn't proper ID asked for, just about everywhere?  What would be so offensive about it unless, of course, you are NOT who you say you ARE?  As far as it being such a "hardship" for the poor and the disabled, getting an ID is a one-time event!  How do the poor and disabled  manage other things which must be accomplished weekly, or even daily? I'm sure that some "political hopeful" could get that problem (if it is such) solved within 24 hours of a law being passed!

    Yes I agree with ID should be mandatory .

    You know, this I find amazing, so far everyone agrees with the idea,  yet the articles I've been reading about this would have one believe that the majority disagree with the ID card. I'll keep waiting for part of that majority that disagrees, then to find out why they think it's a bad idea.  I would really like to know why (and how it could be called discrimination). 

    robertgrist

    Newsmax is a sensationalist rag. Its credibility is baseless. Stay with WSJ and reliable sources for facts. Lots of folk go for sensationalizing the news to profit by their 15 seconds of fame even if it’s a lie.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Hmm. OK. Don't believe. I know Obama is fighting the voter ID cards. He needs the illegal's votes.

    Absolutly i agree we got enough fraud going on.

    Ducky

    Moderator
    daren...you voted my answer DOWN because...?
    FISH-O

    You also voted the question down Daren... Have you been hacked again?
    daren1

    Total accident Ducka' you know i would never vote down my favorite quack..
    daren1

    Fishy great observation, i just got on line now after 4 hours, thanks i give a shout to the powers that be..
    Ducky

    Moderator
    daren...I was pretty sure that it was accidental...never the less, I've spent the last 4 hours, crying buckets and buckets of tears...boo hoo...boo..hoooooooo....boo hoo...sob sob...or as fishy says...le sob!!!

    LOL!!! Thanks for putting it back! :)
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Daren's account was hacked. He did not give the thumbs down.

    Not just any ID - voter's ID or USA passport!

    Yes to voter ID.   Amen Ducka..  

    Not only I.D. but I think every American voter should have a mandatory Q.A. filtering at the polls, ten simple questions about the events of the time, or at least some form of friggin' IQ test to filter out the idiots.  I know this is discrimination but somewhere the line must be drawn. i don't like that some idiot is voting on who is going to be in charge of my well being.  Be it Republican or Democrat.   I sincerely believe that a person voting should have some knowledge of what they are voting for, understand the issues, maybe even an American History test.  

    robertgrist

    That was attempted…a literacy test for prospective voters predominately in the southern US but was simply a form of racial discrimination. As is if a person cannot read the ballot they can be accompanied by a friend to read and mark their ballot for them or vote by mail in California. Only US citizens have the right to vote and in California a state issued ID card (free) or drivers license.

    Actually, studies show that there is very little voter fraud and I do think that the republicans have ulterior motives on this issue. Suddenly, they're concerned with a non-issue. The papers are filled with statstics showing that there is no problem with voter fraud. And you have to be purposely ignorant of the facts not to see that it does affect elderly, minorities, and poor people. Here in VA. a drivers permit cost thirty two dollars, a lot of money for some people. And most of these people vote democratic. You really don't see this?  However, that being said, I don't have a real problem with voter ID as long as some provisions are made for people that are in need of help with their ID.

    Colleen

    Moderator
    What studies? Studies are meaningless anyway since there is always another study that wipes out the first study. Well not quite meaningless but we need more than studies. We need honesty. We just need to have the government be honest about the cheating that does happen at the polls and it does and I do not want illegals electing who will be the president of my country.
    bigben

    Well, I read the Washington Post, USA Today, and the Richmond Timesdispatch, and over the last several months they have all three constantly carried articles about this being a non-issue and two of those are conservative papers. But, like I said, I have no problem with ID as long as provisions are made for the poor and people that can't get out. And I'm not going to go back and list these studies. How could you read the papers and not have seen these articles? I don't think ID's are necessarly unresonable unless they are being used as a weapon and I think that is exactly what the republicans are trying to do. Also, there are approxamately eleven million illegals in this country. Don't you think that if a significant number of those people were voting illegially someone would have made a major stink about it. But, I haven't seen one, not one, article addressing that point. Actually, the last article I read on this said that the problems weren't with fraud, but were smaller problems that are usually worked out and there weren't that many of those.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    I do not read the papers. I read the internet. People have made big stinks. The people of NH voted Ron Paul for their convention and some how Romney came out on top. Now I can't blame that on the illegals because I do not think NH has a lot of them but there was some major cheating going on for that poll. It costs $20 for a state ID. Something that these "poor" should have had right along. It takes a state ID to get on the welfare system. I'd go get some articles but like I said, it will just be a case of this poll over that poll, or this article over that article. We all see what we want to see and Obama got elected on the votes from illegals. No, I will not search that out again. I'm not in the frame of mind to fight today. It's been a month from hell here on the forum with members losing it. I'll get back to this when I've had a small vacation from the drama. Everyone knows the system is broken. There are just those who want to keep it broken so they can take full advantage of the fact that it is very easy to miscount and cheat. <Obama>
    bigben

    Sorry, I didn't know we were having a fight, I thought we were having a dialogue.
    bigben

    And there is one problem with getting most of your information from the internet and that is so much of it is opinion desgised as fact, such as blogs. As a journalism major I can tell you that the main stream media, for all the criticism it encounters, works under a strict code of ethics. Sometimes, there are problems, but for the most part they are about as objective as you can get, other than the op-ed pages.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    The media is controlled by the government. The internet is not, at least not yet. They are still trying.

    I agree with voter ID cards. This is the point of the question.

    There is far too much going on with the forum right now for me to take anytime with arguing politics or who has the best news source. Sorry to be so abrupt but hell is breaking loose here, a lot of it unseen by the members. I need to deal with that first. Hope you understand.
    bigben

    No problem, I know that you must be busy. I hope they lighten up for you soon.

    I think a voter ID is a good idea, and the government should step up to the plate and implement programs to establish ways to make it available to all legal citizens, including those who have difficulty getting out or affording it. That way there is no argument from anyone, except from someone who isn't in the country legally. Maybe it should simply be a citizenship ID, and it just be the new standard form of identification, instead of having these stupid border patrol stops on the highway where they ask people if they are a citizen! What are they expecting people to say...no, I'm in this country illegally, and the guy next to me is a terrorist?!

    Agree. Don't you need it for welfare and food stamps?

    Ducky

    Moderator
    Going into bars and in some places, buying cigarettes?

    AS robertgrist said there is no problem with voter registration.  I seen all kinds of experts speak on this topic. (Democracy Now, PBS News, Nightly News, you name it).  A southern governer, don't remember name said on TV this is less than a 1% problem.  I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING I.D. for anything, including voter i.d.  I love the idea of big brother watching people and doing whatever they have to do to keep American a safe place.  However, from everything I have heard its kind of like a form of redistricting so one party can gain advantage of the other when voting time arrives.  It may not be well know that people have been thinking up ways to keep minorities from voting for at least a 100 years in the United States.  Blacks in the south use to be killed if they tried to vote, houses burned down.  The had to do stupid things like count watermelon seeds, say the alphabet, even tho they were discouraged from learning to read, all kinds of crazy stuff.  Since laws came in, of course more clever manuvers have arise with regard to discouraging  voting by minorities.  Voter I.D. is truly one of them. It's pitiful and sad that that's the psychological motivation behind this crab.  Now if it were ligitimate it would be great.  Pay attention people do some real & true research on this topic.  This year 75,000 low income minorities in the south will not be able to vote in November election with voter i.d. laws in place.  I do phone polling, phone calling, knock on doors almost every election year for various topics.  This year even some republicans are sick and tired of what republicans are trying to pull.  And they are pulling one with this voter i.d. issue. Give me a break.  I know a lot of people do not like Obama but don't lose insight and reason and reality over him.

    I agree. All Americans should have some form of ID.



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