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    A Fox killed my wild cat 3 days ago,id had him for 3 years,he had his box in the shed,and i gave him a hot water bottle when it was cold,and got him through 7 winters,i miss him,should i kill the fox,??

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    Hector ,You are both sad and angry at the moment . Thats understandable . What you are not seeing is that you were a first class friend to Charlie . He had a tough life and for the time you shared you offered comfort  ,shelter and as much safety as he was willing to accept . That takes one fine individual to do that . I expect you will think on this for a bit and then your conscience will guide you to what is correct. There is nothing that fill your emptiness at least for a bit ,you need time to heal . Animals can see our souls it is said and I belive shortly you will have a new friend . What ever you do with the fox is your business and Ill respect what ever you do .     Bill

    hector5559

    THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND ANSWER ,BILL.
    bluesman1951

    Please tell us when your new friend shows up . I know the days will be empty for awhile there is just no cure for that .Charlie mattered to you and he should be missed ,how else would we know our friends mattered ? Perhaps the next time you guys meet he will have the gift of speech and you may know just how much your kindness was appreciated. I hope so !!! Spring is coming and with that a whole new crop of little ones just starting out .The old ones feel the warm coming with the passing of winter . Like a station on the old underground rail-road maybe you are a designated stop for the animals .Your kindness is for sure noted in the book of life and I am sure God knows you are sad and in due time he will send you a new companion . I would welcome the story and read every word . It would please me greatly to know that you have a companion and are happy. Best wishes for good days . Bill

    No, the fox only did what was natural. This is nature. Let nature be. The next time you have a cat, make it a pet and bring it into the house. How could you have had him for only 3 years but got him through 7 winters? How would you know which fox to kill?

    hector5559

    sorry it was 7 years,he would not let anyone pick him up,and would not come indoors,but he was very special to me,he could handle a normal size fox,but this one is very big,
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Perhaps it was just his time to go. He may have been nearing the end of his life. He might even be thankful to the fox for allowing him to leave and have a better existence. Animals have Soul and do go on. He will never again have to suffer the harsh winters. You gave him the best life you could. Be thankful you were able to do that.

    That is a very sad and distressing story and I can understand your deep grief and the affection you must have had for your wild cat. Colleen is right, the fox only killed because like every fox it is born in them. Please don't  kill it, you will only come to regret it later, they too are part of the wonderful world of nature.  


     

    hector5559

    THE FOX DID NOT KILL HIM CLEANLY,HIS EYES AS HE LAY DEAD WERE FULL OF FEAR.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Eyes show no emotion. Spirit, soul is the emotion. Once gone, so is the emotion in the eyes. Your grief is making you see things.

    Sorry about your feral cat. Maybe you should make the door way of the box smaller and maybe put it up higher so the foxes can't get in. That is if there any more kitties out there.  Our outdoor cats have access to the barns with small doors for them to get in but it keeps out things like coyotes and raccoons.  Not too many foxes around here. That I see anyway.

    hector5559

    HE BECAME FERAL AFTER BEING BADLEY INJURED,BY HIS HIS PASSED OWNERS WHO MOVE AWAY,
    clu

    The poor kitty! I'm glad you cared enough to try to give him some shelter.

    The fox was only doing what they instinctually do to survive. Unfortunately, that sometimes goes against what human beings value, in such things as pets and small farm animals like chickens. When there is a food source such as domesticated cats, and small farm animals, they will naturally gravitate towards where the food source is most abundant, especially if the domesticated animals are easy prey. This is just one of the things that happens when wildlife and the domesticated pets or animals of human beings live in close proximity to one another upon land that is considered on the fringes of society and land in its natural state.


    I live in the country, as I don't like the congestion of living in town. I don't hunt, as I just don't have it in me to unnecessarily kill an animal, either wild or domestic. But, I do know that if someone or something comes into where I abide, and harms or poses threat to my family, myself, or an animal that I love and care about...it or they will get what they invested in that venture back in return, with interest compounded accordingly. Its just a matter of, this is where I call it home, and I look at it as having a right to protect it. 

    hector5559

    THANKS SHOOTAH.
    zorro

    How dare you shootah, you must let the wildlife take what is instinct to them. You have no right to protect your interest. Just let them have a cat or two, or a few chickens. So they can raise more offspring, for them to come back to your place and get more food. To have more offspring...
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Tighten up the chicken coop. Why are the lambs out at night? Don't the farmer realize there are predators out there? Irresponsible farmers that they are. They put locks doors and windows in their houses to keep themselves safe, don't they?

    Don't kill the fox, he was doing what nature intended for him to do. I know how you feel, I use to have two raccoon, Bonnie and Clyde. They lived in the house with me. They were clean and friendlier than my cats. I lost them both, a year apart. It was awful.


    What did you name him?

    hector5559

    CHARLIE,
    Daisy!

    Nice name.
    Ann

    Daisy, thats awsome to have racoons for pets. Did you get them when they were young and did they get along with other animals? I am so sorry you lost them. They are so cute.
    Daisy!

    I was a kid, I knew a man who owned a construction company. He use to let me drive his bulldozer and knock down trees on construction sites. I knocked down a tree, the mama raccoon ran away, I checked the tree and she had 2 babies. I took them home and raised them. Clyde road a motorcycle with me, he loved the wind. Bonnie rode horses with me,slept with the dogs and other cats. I'd find her in my drawers, cabinets, and she knew how to get in the attic. They were very entertaining. I carried them on my hip like a baby, and they drank out of human baby bottles. Bonnie slept on my pillow as close to my head as she could get. They were wonderful.
    Someone reported my family, animal control/wild life/and sheriff dept. showed up. They couldn't do a thing. The animals were free to come and go as they please. They'd never been caged. Since they were free, no laws were broken.
    If I had been feeding a bear, that would have been illegal. Or to give a snake a live rat to eat is illegal. Surprised me.
    hector5559

    The fox was not harm,in anyway,and Charlie is at peace,

    No you should not kill the Fox it has't done anything wrong in any way shape or form it's just nature . It is not like the Fox mounted his horse with 40 of his cronies and chased the poor Wildcat with a pack of hungry hounds is it in the name of sport no just nature taking it's course.

    I am sorry about your cat. I know one gets so attached to them, even if they are feral. Foxes are nocturnal and they will eat a cat if they are hungry and cant find anything else. That is theire nature . They dont deliberatly go after cats, only if there is nothing else to eat. I live in the woods and have many foxes her too. When it gets cold and there is alot of snow, I always put dry dog food outside, As soon it  is starting to get dark, my cats are in and stay in till in the morning.To kill a fox is inhumane and cruel. The deserve to live as they were intented to live.

    hector5559

    THIS FOX ANN HAD PLENTY OF FOOD AROUND MY AREA ,PEOPLE FEED THEM.
    Ann

    Hector, you gave your cat a place to stay and took good care of him.but the law of nature is different than the law of man. Your cat crossed the rainbow bridge and is happy there. You will see him again some day.

    No. The fox was just being a fox. And if you let your wild cat run arouond, that's what's going to happen. If you kept your wild cat in the shed all the time, you were being cruel, without meaning to. It's best to not keep wild animals as pets.

    valR

    Are you this foxmom! laughing....
    hector5559

    THE CAT WAS FREE TO ROAM AS HE WISHED,HE ONLY USED THE SHED WHEN IT WAS WAY BELOW ZERO

    I am confused by wildcat do you mean a wild housecat...or a bobcat????  I wish you would focus on the love you showed to your cat over the years and the joy you receive from your cat.  It was very nice of you too care for the cat...sadly, in winter fox can get very hungry as a lot of their prey is hibernating.

    hector5559

    THE CAT JUST ARRIVED IN MY GARDEN,APPOX,7 YEARS AGO,HE WOULD NOT COME IN THE HOUSE.OR LET ANYONE GET WITHIN MORE THEN 6 FEET FROM HIM,ALTHOUGH HE TOLERATED MY BULLDOG HECTOR,WHO DIED LAST YEAR NEARLY 12 YEARS OLD.

    HE WAS ALLOWED TO ROAM AS HE WISHED,MY SHED WAS HIS ONLY RETREAT,

    Colleen

    Moderator
    As an animal, he understood his chances. He lived the life of the wild and accepted that life.

    Yiep!

    Sorry to hear about your kitty Chalie hector. I know losing a pet can almost be like losing a family member sometimes and the natural way to feel would be to want revenge. But, revenge isn't necessarily the answer, I would just trap it and release it far into the wilderness where it can't hurt anyone's kitty cats.


    Cat's are easy prey when it comes to coyotes or foxes, the thing is that we are infringing on their territory, not the other way around. So being human gives you the intelligence to do what's best for all that may be affected. Cat, fox, and the people who love their pets could all benefit here by relocation. Hope this helps, and once again sorry for your loss, I've been there.

    hector5559

    THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.LEEROY.
    leeroy

    NO PROBLEM, I've had my share of adopted (almost children) and I know how attached you can become. It takes a long time to build the trust of a feral cat, but they appreciate the care it seems much more than a domesticated cat. Mine used to bring me birds as a cat thank you I suppose. Cats are so unique...

    Just protecting my property. I kill to destroy whats killing my interest, and for food .


     

    Colleen

    Moderator
    You're still scary. Sort of backwoods thinking. Glad you don't live near me. You'd probably shoot my dog just because he has pit in him. Why do you still reply as a new answer and not a comment? Do you do this purposely to get the question to bounce to the top of the answered page so all c an see your reply?
    Shootah

    About 2 years ago, there was a local woman who was walking down a public road, who was mauled by 2 loose pit bulls and lost both arms. One above the elbow and just a nub of a forearm left on the other. She was on televison several months later, it was heart breaking to see what those dogs did to her. I don't think I'd want animals like that wandering upon my family in the backyard. With dogs like that wandering around loose, finding them in the backyard once would be too much...one answer doesn't always fit all situations. That was about the same time another dog killed its owner's little girl in her own yard about 50 miles from here. A state trooper shot that dog...I don't think I blame him. Every situation is different, in that irresponsible choices by one person, sometimes puts innocent people at risk.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    We should shoot all people who drive drunk and kill others. They should be thinking better than an animal even when drunk. Lets just go on shooting killing sprees because of a couple of stories. I grew up on 18 acres of land. Most of it wooded with all kinds of wild animals on the woods. We have a small mini farm. We never lost one animal to a wild animal and none of us kids were ever attacked by an animal or even one of our many dogs that roamed the woods. Amazing we survived this world so over run with wild savage animals that you all know and have heroically faced.
    zorro

    You've never had a mountain lion on your property either. I have.
    zorro

    Thats why Shootah, pit bull owners should be required to carry 500,000 dollars liability insurance if owning a pit bull.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Actually we had a Bobcat for 2 nights. All animals were brought in, the kids stayed in and we waited. When his cries or calls stopped after 2 nights we knew he had moved on. My father could have shot him I suppose but my father respected animals of the wild and knew we had taken their homes and most of the wild game from them. He believed they had a right to live as much as all of God's creatures. I believe God smiled on him for letting the bobcat live.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    I'll let you know if my little 1/2 pit ever gets dangerous. I think hunters should carry 500,000 -1 million in liability insurance and livestock insurance for all the people they kill and livestock on farms and pets in backyards they kill. I believe hunters are just as dangerous as you think pit bulls are (this includes homeowners) who think they can go out on their property and just shoot into the woods or wherever and not know if maybe a person just might be there or maybe someone's pet who happened to wonder into your area, this too has happened too many times. Innocent lives ended by dangerous hunters and gun owners.
    zorro

    I did let a porcupine live earlier this fall. A pressure water hose gave it the desire to leave. Dog didn't fare too well though. Got five in jaw.

    No animal survives that harms my cats. I have killed three foxes the last 9 months. Down to three cats now. Question is how much you value the cat ? You could always live trap the fox, and have it relocated. I have allowed alot of wild animals to survive that have set foot on the property, but the foxes, no.


     

    Colleen

    Moderator
    You just like to kill. I would worry having to live near you. If you had your way, you will kill all the pit bulls too. You are scary.
    Ann

    You just dont respect the law of nature. You make your own laws. Pretty scary.
    bulletman

    I agreewith you Zorro, the fox will be back, regardless of what evey one else says, he is a vicious little killer often kills for lust rather than food, i guess the difference is the fox was introduced in my country and is regarded as a pest and can be shot on sight by farmers as they kill a large percentage of new born lambs, and i mean new born some still in the membrain with their brains missing, that is all they want. i don't believe in killing for killing sake but when you are surrounded by carcasses you tend to change your mind.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    The US is not over run with a fox problem. Hector still has not said how he knows it was a fox, It could have been a wild dog that once was someones pet until they got bored with it.
    zorro

    I also said trap the animal and relocate it. There is no shortage of foxes around west texas. Most do live inside towns, killing the cats there too. There is a rattlesnake roundup in sweetwater texas second weekend of march. You all are welcome to attend. Poor western diamondback rattlesnake. Its not hurting anything. People killing them for no reason. Catching them and taking them to the roundup to be fried and made into boots and other items.
    Colleen

    Moderator
    Why would I want to attend dumb people killing snakes?

    "I have allowed alot of wild animals to survive that have set foot on the property, but the foxes, no."

    BUT THE FOXES NO.

    You might have told him to trap it but you kill them, oh big brave killer with a gun. Nature has a right to this planet too. We took the homes of all God's creatures. They can not just go to the land office and buy themselves their own property. Says a lot about a mentality when one thinks wild animals can rationalize when a property belongs to a human. Keep your cats and small pets in the house or move out of the country.

    Hector, did your cat get killed at night? Feral cats are very vocal and very loud if threatened. I wonder why the fox did not eat your cat unless it was a rabid fox. It certainly could have been another animal, like a dog. They would kill , but not eat them.

    hector5559

    HE WAS JUST WANTED TO TAKE OVER ANN I THINK,
    Ann

    Hector. Many years ago I lost my cat tuxedo to a fisher cat and it was my fault for letting him out at night. My oldest daughter found what was left of him in the woods near a brook. I right away knew it was a fisher cat that killed him by what he left behind. A terrible lesson for me. No cat ever went out again at night.

    I HAVE DOUBLE GLASING ANN,AND THE FOX OFTEN ,USE TO TRY AND GET IN HIS BOX,AND TAKE HIS HOT WATER BOTTLE OUT AND LEAVE IT FURTHER DOWN THE GARDEN,HE CANT DO IT ANY MORE ,IVE TAKEN THE BOX AWAY 

    YES

    Make friends with the fox, Hector

    hector5559

    HE KILLED CHALIE,
    Yonmon

    He did what he had to do, now do what you have to.AND I DONT MEAN KILL THE FOX.

    I can't blieve what i've just read, if the fox killed one of your pets would you be so sorry for the fox because it a natural thing for it do. have you ever seen what a fox does to a chicken coup, it kills them all without eating one and you feel sorry for him.  

    Flip

    I agree.

    Definately,.he will be back again to kill, remember he may look like dog  but he is a vicious killer especially of new born lambs, unforetuneatly i have witnessed the aftermath of the fox's slaughter.

    dennis,


    is the Fox still alive?

    hector5559

    yes hes still alive,vaIR,

    Why is it still there. . Look for foam around mouth if able to see.

    hector5559

    I MIGHT SHOOT IT WITH A .22 PISTOL.ZORRO,
    zorro

    If you see foam around the mouth, it could be sick with rabies, or something else bad. If you have been around ,it should have run away. That doesn't sound right that its still there.

    The fox will be back. 

    hector5559

    HE HAS NOT GONE YET,

    I am quite sorry for your loss however how do you know it was a fox and not a coyote and which particular one?  Food for thought.  By the way my cats stay indoors with me not out with the foxes and coyotes.

    hector5559

    WE DONT HAVE COYOTE HERE IN WIMBLEDON,YEA I KNOW THE ONE,AND HE WAS A WILD CAT,

    7 years is a good long time in wild.



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