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First of all, Obama isn't a muslim!! Second, read the blasted proclamation. At the end of the first paragraph he states, "let us.....give thanks for the providence bestowed upon us." Providence in this case - care execrised by a diety or divine guidance. Second paragraph, he makes reference to Washingtons and Lincolns speeches that thank god. In the fifth paragraplh he gives thanks to god and urges people to give thanks whether at home or in their place of worship and in the sixth he says "in the year of our lord"
Now, I'm not a religious person, so, I don't care whether you give thanks or not. I believe that a person should be grateful for the good things in life, but if you think that some divine being is responsible, you are delusional, in my opinion. But, thats my opinion and everybody is entitled to one. So, why don't you people drop the muslim nonsense because while you're entitled to you own opinion, you are not entitled to your own set of facts. Obama has been going to the same christian chruch for years. Now, you might not like his minister or his religion, but thats your own narrow minded opinion, not a fact.
12 years ago. Rating: 2 | |
Yes he is. He went to a Muslim church and a Muslim school. Once a Muslim always a Muslim. One can not convert from that religion.
"Providence in this case - care execrised by a diety or divine guidance. "
Weak at best. He should have just said God. He could have meant Allah under the guise of "providence".
"Second paragraph, he makes reference to Washingtons and Lincolns speeches that thank god."
Still not able to say God himself because it would mean the Christian God. He is not a Christian. He is Muslim.
"in the sixth he says "in the year of our lord"
A legal term, he's OK with that.
Are you Obama's public relation man now? If you are, tell him to watch it. We don't like what he's doing to this country and what the heck does he have against horses? I'm adding horse murderer to his resume.
Countdown unlit Obama leaves office:
415 days 00hours, 25 minutes, 40 seconds
His actions speak louder than his lying words.
From my family to yours, I’d like to wish you a happy Thanksgiving. Like millions of Americans, Michelle, Malia, Sasha and I will spend the day eating great food, watching a little football, and reflecting on how truly lucky we truly are.
As Americans, each of us has our own list of things and people to be thankful for. But there are some blessings we all share.
We’re especially grateful for the men and women who defend our country overseas. To all the service members eating Thanksgiving dinner far from your families: the American people are thinking of you today. And when you come home, we intend to make sure that we serve you as well as you’re serving America.
We’re also grateful for the Americans who are taking time out of their holiday to serve in soup kitchens and shelters, making sure their neighbors have a hot meal and a place to stay. This sense of mutual responsibility – the idea that I am my brother’s keeper; that I am my sister’s keeper – has always been a part of what makes our country special. And it’s one of the reasons the Thanksgiving tradition has endured.
The very first Thanksgiving was a celebration of community during a time of great hardship, and we have followed that example ever since. Even when the fate of our union was far from certain – during a Civil War, two World Wars, a Great Depression – Americans drew strength from each other. They had faith that tomorrow would be better than today.
We’re grateful that they did. As we gather around the table, we pause to remember the pilgrims, pioneers, and patriots who helped make this country what it is. They faced impossible odds, and yet somehow, they persevered. Today, it’s our turn.
I know that for many of you, this Thanksgiving is more difficult than most. But no matter how tough things are right now, we still give thanks for that most American of blessings, the chance to determine our own destiny. The problems we face didn’t develop overnight, and we won’t solve them overnight. But we will solve them. All it takes is for each of us to do our part.
With all the partisanship and gridlock here in Washington, it’s easy to wonder if such unity is really possible. But think about what’s happening at this very moment: Americans from all walks of life are coming together as one people, grateful for the blessings of family, community, and country.
If we keep that spirit alive, if we support each other, and look out for each other, and remember that we’re all in this together, then I know that we too will overcome the challenges of our time.
So today, I’m thankful to serve as your President and Commander-and-Chief. I’m thankful that my daughters get to grow up in this great country of ours. And I’m thankful for the chance to do my part, as together, we make tomorrow better than today.
Thanks, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/24/obamas_thanksgiving_message_on_the_challenges_of_our_time.html
I left aqaQA yesterday explaining my reasons - quotes from the Bible / religion etc... Colleen as a moderator look at the arguments here on this thread today about Muslims. You yourself as a moderator could be seen to be inflaming issues here. If your President is black, green, red or yellow - Catholic, athist or Muslim, that should make no difference. Judge people for WHO they are not because of their faith. You say this site is, and should not be used, as a platform for preaching. Unfortunantly it is! Why on Earth others can't see it is beyond me. Personal religious views on an International forum like this should be kept private. Collen with due respect, this site, as we all know, is a Question & Answers forum & should be based on fact - not based on personal opinions or ramming extracts from the Bible down peoples necks. There is a great difference betweem fact & personal opinion. IMHO you really do run a danger of being seen as a site that is against certain faiths which could cause problems for the future of aqaQA - i really hope not.
As a footnote here, as a British Soldier I have served with people from different countries, from all walks of life with many different faiths - & yes i have trusted those men with my life & visa versa - religion has never been an issue. Many of those good men have paid the ultimate price for World peace. The point here that i am trying highlight is that serving beside them the differences in regards of thier faiths has never been questioned - there is no place in the British Army for this type of narrow minded view & quite rightly so.
I am not interested in what faith anyone has on this forum, whether you worship the Sun the moon or you are a Muslim, Catholic, or a total non believer. I still class people here as equals & my friends - fellow human beings.
Think about this: how would you feel if verses from the Koran were posted on here along with not nice comments about your faith ..... and before you post your thoughts with knee jerk comments at least spend a few minutes to think about it & then post an honest answer without copy & pasting quotes from the Bible.
Comments on here: "ONLY THE MUSLIM ONES" - "Once a Muslim always a Muslim".
I really do owe this final post to my many friends on here - whatever your beliefs!
Maz - (an open minded Christian)
12 years ago. Rating: 1 | |
Yes, akaQA is a question and answer forum. Freedom of speech and personal opinion is allowed. I am in no way attacking the Muslim faith with my opinion. I also see no arguments here about the faith itself.
You say you do not agree with the Muslim faith. Colleen I totally respect your view. I for one would not try to change your mind because i respect that that is your opinion & fully respect your views. There are many things in life i disagree with also but i don't stand on a soap box on Q&A to try to get my point across or to try & change peoples opinions. This site is not the place!
Of course Colleen as you correctly say heated debate will always rear it's head and opinions will differ, but that is not in any way a sign of a bad forum - it would be very sad if we all shared the same ideas & views! As far as you standing down and quitting as a moderator - why should you do that? A fact of life here: with the best will in the World you will never please all the people all of the time, and as a moderator you are there as a "caretaker" to overview proceedings - because you do that role does not mean that you loose your right to express your own opinions & views. As far as religion goes, i also agree that questions on the subject will appear from time to time, however i do feel along with many others that most of these questions are "planted" to simply gain a free International platform to preach. Highjacking of forums by religious or political factions is now getting known. They often target sucsessful forums like akaQA that have a large captive audience. They actually use the freedom of speech banner to spread the word on other peoples forums!!! Good moderation here is the key to sucsess. At least i have mentiond my concerns regarding the issue - it is of course up to the admin to make any changes they feel fit & not a forum user. I am sure you have your own, maybe differing views, on this matter.
For what it is worth how about a sticky thread with a few simple common sense rules and maybe a mission statement posted on the header of akaQA. Most sites do. I really do believe that the membership would welcome it. How about you as a Mod putting it up as a question on akaQA? It would be fun to see the replies too!