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    Satanists? Witches?- NO. In Spain, between about 1930 and 1989 Catholic priests, nuns and doctors stole up to 300,000 babies and sold them to rich Spaniards. Originally opponents to Gen.Franco had their babies taken and sold mothers were told their babies had died and that they could not see the bodies. After Franco it was used as means of income for the Church, perhaps to pay compensation to those who have been sexually abused by priests.  Is this Church morally bankrupt?

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    Spain’s Stolen Babies: 300,000 Children Abducted by Nuns and Sold


    Written by Wm. Hopper, 
    author of “The Heathen’s Guide to World Religions”


    "BBC is running a story this week on a long-running adoption scam wherein ‘good” nuns and priests stole an estimated 300,000 children from their mothers in order to sell them for adoption. Young, unwed mothers were told that their child had died and that no burial services would be performed. The child was then sold to “good, Christian parents” who would be able to bring the child up “right”. This went on for fifty years, and the scope of it is only now coming to light.


    The notion of religious ‘good’ is, at best, subjective. Most often it’s simply a convenient term used to do exactly what you want to do, but with ‘God’s permission’. This is why– when I am invariably accused of attacking decent, ‘good’ religious folk– I have to ask: Whose ‘good’ are they working for? Usually, it’s not mine. (or yours).


    Religious ‘good’ is just a code-word for trying to make the world obey your God. Good Christians will feed the poor, but only the ones who are willing to sit through a sermon before they eat. They will give groceries to a desperate mother in need, but the food they give won’t come from a store. It will be donated. After all, why should the higher-ups part with their 6-figure salaries so junkies, addicts, whores, and homosexuals can eat? They spend God’s money on ‘good’ things that make society pure, like clean clothes and family-friendly housing. No use wasting it on scum who will use it to live un-Christian lives.


    This is the way of charity in almost every religion: Self-defined acts of ‘good’, the definition of which sometimes includes abducting and selling 300,000 children (or any other atrocity). When the current scandal fades from the headlines, you can bet that the people who committed these crimes will still believe that what they did was ‘right’. They will find succor in the thought that, no matter how the ‘liberal press’ wants to spin it, these children grew up in healthy Christian homes instead of learning from heathenous, Hell-bound parents. In their minds they saved these children’s bodies and souls, and should be rewarded, not scorned."


    http://heathensguide.com/10/18/spain%E2%80%99s-stolen-babies-300000-children-abducted-by-nuns-and-sold/

    Colleen

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    This is my view on any religion that claims to help people but lifts it's nose and degrades good decent people because of what THEY the religious deem sin or sinful. Hypocrites. These people work to help themselves(especially their own egos)and no other.
    PEOPLELOVER

    Well said Colleen, they are hoping to score brownie points with the Big Man so can justify anything in their own mind by claiming they are "doing the lords work".
    Do not think if there is a God he/she would be pleased unless he/she is as narrow minded and self centred as the ones who carried out this diabolical act.

    incredable, it's hard to imagine that this goes on in this day and age,but then again nothings shocking in this day and age. what blows my mind is the fact that 300,000 parents couldn't figure out that their babies were being stolen , and worse is the people that did this, you would expect this from a third world nation, indeed they will have to answer to god for this..

    yes nomedeplume I have read this before it evil cant say anymore as I get too angry

    Dingos might steal babies but they don't sell them.

    Nothing surprises me! How awful - just another atrocious happening.

    Many,many evil deeds have been done in the name of God,christianity & the church.This is one of the worst.

    Poppy3

    Too right Tommy - religion per se - lets not start trying to differentiate as to which Church.

    Thats Unbelievable, you wouldn't think that had been happening so recentley.

    Dingoes will too. Bad, bad Dingo

    pythonlover

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    Are you from Australia ?
    Ed1530

    Nopper, but I saw the move the dingo ate your baby. Oh, that was not a good thing at all. I live in New Mexico and we have coyotes all over the place.

    Absolutely shocking. Is this church morally bankrupt? you ask.  You bet'ch it is and as Daren1


    says above, someone will have to pay come Judgement Day.

    I know about the inhuman bullfights and the downright disgusting animal cruely of the Galco, The Greyhound. This cant be a religious nation. Theire Catholic church is a disgrace for the catholic religion. This is also criminal. Has anyone ever been brought to justice for that?  Knowing all that, I would never set foot in this country.

    Poppy3

    Ann I adore Greyhounds - just so laid back and adorable My Brother one year had lots of guys - drinking at Christmas and when Mum and I went over who did we find amongst all this -Bertie, the greyhound, Richard had taken him on for a while because one of his friends couldn't manage. Mum and I had to take him away back to me for the Christmas period - he stayed a few days - so lolapy in fact I thought he needed a pshychiatrist so gentle and laid back - he with a lovely family now with the kids that used to go my brother's to visit him. I am in no way making light of the above question - should have posted this elsewhere - it's all horrendous.

    Can anyone get their children back? And did the  new parents know where the babies came from?

    nomdeplume

    DNA tests are now being undertaken so it will take many years before the full story is known.Don't forget, some of the victims are in their 50's.

    Isn't that the country that Michelle Obama rented  a beach and palace deal? Funny... her concerns for children and what they eat, but isn't addressing reasoning behind this. It just seems unreal that our own govenment hasn't put some of this information to a more public forum and questioned our Catholic Churches about this. Maybe they have, but I missed it.

    Read the report by a BBC reporter who visited one of the doctors involved ;


    www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15335899

    Graves are now being exhumed of the allegedly deceased babies. One containd stones, another an adult human leg. I do find it strange that this matter has taken so long to surface, but Spain has many secrets dating back to their civil war.

    winfia

    Nothing shocks me much anymore ... but I am quite shocked by this. How on earth the Catholic Church has gotten away with all its wickedness is way beyond me.

    Much the same thing happened in Australia when Aboriginal children were taken from their mothers and distributed to white people - 'The Forgotten Generation'.


    In some ways this was worse as it was a deliberate policy to destroy the 50,000 year old aboriginal culture.

    This is shocking and unbelieveable ... just adding it to the list of all of the wicked, wicked acts carried out by the Catholic Church makes me sick. How on earth does the C Church get away with this and still exist?

    it does happen. it is a tragedy. 



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